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 by Stranger
9 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   Norcal
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Can we give Fisher a front office roles but install a new coaching staff? I think FIsh is a great ambassador to the game, but I'd like to see someone else driving football strategy and assistant coaching staff week to week. I want to see a team who is consistently prepared for game day, is much more disciplined on the field, and an offense that is far more aggressive and innovative.

I also want a HC who is more forthright when addressing the media. Fish is sooo media-polished, that it seems like all we get is media speak that isn't always as forthright and transparent as I'd like.

 by dieterbrock
9 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
Hall of Fame

Hacksaw wrote:But what is it that is missing specifically? Not innovative enough on O? Too aggressive on special teams? Not enough discipline or at least able to teach the guys not to make stupid untimely mistakes? (the latter having nothing to do with the game passing anyone by)
At the end of the season or maybe next if another quality head coach is available for have some move will be in order if the team has not improved. I just don't see any direction that would make sense now or worth complaining about Fish. Other than that 500% thing..


With all the rule changes favoring the passing game, his methodolgy has not adapted. Conservative offense and solid D just dont cut it any more

 by Hacksaw
9 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   AT THE BEACH
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Thanks for your reply.
Rule changes like you can't breathe on the QB without a flag? PI called if a receivers shoelaces come undone?
OK conservative wont work unless you o-lone id totally dominant. Ours isn't. I can see that misconstruction a worthy argument.
Still overall I don't get it. Please elaborate if there's more bro.

 by Elvis
9 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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Fisher hasn't had a winning season in 5+ years now.

I don't want to judge the guy before we know what kind of year this one is going to be.

But in order to win, he has to have not just good defense, but great defense.

He's never going to win with offense. And that's limiting. It's not impossible to win his way but he sure has fewer roads to the SB than most.

And as Dieter points out, the rules protect the QB and WR's more than they ever have. Everybody's throwing the ball more: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New England.

OTOH, Fisher says we're going to run the ball but we never actually have. We throw a lot. We just do it worse than most teams...

 by aeneas1
9 years 4 months ago
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 Joined:  Sep 13 2015
United States of America   Norcal
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:Fisher hasn't had a winning season in 5+ years now.

I don't want to judge the guy before we know what kind of year this one is going to be.

But in order to win, he has to have not just good defense, but great defense.

He's never going to win with offense. And that's limiting. It's not impossible to win his way but he sure has fewer roads to the SB than most.

And as Dieter points out, the rules protect the QB and WR's more than they ever have. Everybody's throwing the ball more: Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New England.

OTOH, Fisher says we're going to run the ball but we never actually have. We throw a lot. We just do it worse than most teams...

i think you're absolutely right about the rams not having thrown the ball well under fish, to say the least, but they have run the rock... if you look at 1st & 2nd downs for the first 3 quarters, i.e. throw out 3rd down which is a passing down and the 4th quarter which is when teams that are behind throw the ball to catch up, only 4 teams have a higher run % than the rams for the 2012-2015 stretch. the flipside is only 8 teams have pass ratio than the rams on 1st and 2nd downs in the 4th quarter for the same stretch.... through 2 weeks the rams are middle of the pack, 16th, in run % on 1st and 2nd downs through the first 3 quarters, something i think will change if fish has his way... then again i think it's clear the rams also wanted to at least try to take some early shots with foles, but i'm guessing fish isn't about to give up trying to run the ball early, to shorten games. anyway, if you're going to average or worse on one side of the ball, you better have one helluva unit on the other if you want win a lot of games, make post season noise...

dating back to 1990, i.e. he last 25 years, 21 of the 25 super bowl winners had an offense or defense that ranked in the top 5 in offensive points scored or offensive points allowed, while 19 of the 25 had a unit that ranked in the top 2. and of the 50 super bowl participants of the last 25 years, only 2 had both offenses and defenses that didn't rank in the top 10. anyway, i'm hoping the rams can get to middle of the pack in offensive scoring with foles under center and be a top 5 defense in offensive points allowed.

 by Elvis
9 years 4 months ago
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United States of America   Los Angeles
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Good stuff. If you can post the run/pass numbers for all the teams over the last 3 years by quarter (and i know you can) i'd love to see it...

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