by aeneas1 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #11 whenever i think about free agents richie incoginto's name always seems to come to mind, because of the solid career he's carved out for himself, despite all of his baggage, last year pff graded him "elite" and he made the pro bowl for second time in his career, and this year pff graded him a hair below elite... even so, richie has never really been able to land a big pay day, the bills got him dirt cheap, while 22 guards were paid more than him in 2016, including saffold. by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #12 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I've seen Quick and Tavon do it, but I'm also interested in play calls that scheme receivers open. They'll catch it and we just need a coach who can prove that. Imaging having guys wide open lol...I mean we do have a QB that can deliver that...I know what you mean tho that's why I'm hoping we pick up Alshon. Man that would be the bomb.Quick? For every big play he has made, he's had 5 or 6 drops to off set that. I can not wait for that waste of roster space to be gone for good. These big play WR I'm talking about win the 50/50 ball more often than our guys catch wide open passes... 1 by RamsCosign314 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13 Joined: Jan 15 2017 Albuquerque, NM Undrafted Free Agent Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR dieterbrock wrote:Quick? For every big play he has made, he's had 5 or 6 drops to off set that. I can not wait for that waste of roster space to be gone for good. These big play WR I'm talking about win the 50/50 ball more often than our guys catch wide open passes...I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though. by Neil039 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #14 RamsCosign314 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. 1 by SteakandEggs 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 133 Joined: Jun 01 2016 Long Beach Practice Squad Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #15 Tom, With Horns wrote:JC Tretter or AQ Shipley.TJ Lang.Pierre Garcon or DeSean Jackson.Robert Woods or Terrelle Pryor.Zach Brown.AJ Bouye or Trumaine Johnson.That's where I'm at so far. Are Garcon or Jackson considered better than Jeffery?Are any of them real #1 WR at this point? RFU Season Ticket Holder by Tom, With Horns 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 229 Joined: Jan 16 2016 Redding CA Rookie Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #16 RamsCosign314 wrote:Why do you like TJ Lang? And Desean is a beast. Maybe he could teach Tavon a thing or two??He's "criminally underrated." http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/mcginn/2016/10/29/mcginn-criminally-underrated-lang-limbo/92817066/He will, however, be expensive. Unlike Jack above, I tackled the wish list more like a list of players available I thought could help at positions of need. My expectation was not to add them all; compromises will be made. As for SteakandEgg's question: I have concerns about the viability and value of Jeffery. He will seriously have to be overpaid to be lured in, and is it worth it? We already have a $15 million WR on roster ... want another? ~ Tom Cummings by Hacksaw 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #17 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.Neil039 wrote:No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"!I see the big body receiver threat Fish was after. The guy that is supposed to win the 50/50 balls. They didn't though. It seemed obvious to me that the Rams pass catchers were sick of getting drilled in the back on their 5 yard routes when the team needed 6 for a 1st. The whole passing game was a train wreck. It didn't put guys in a position to succeed. So if McV is capable of doing what Fish and Co. weren't then some of the guys we have might be at least serviceable. I really have my doubts about Quick though. Sort of stiff. He looks awkward in his movement. Britt and TA, I'd keep around and see what they can do. Marquez is a good ST'er. Cooper looks like he has some promise and that flash of Spruce with his good hands was interesting,, although he might not have an NFL body.I'd like to see Alshon finally make it here and / or adding Garcon or Jackson would not hurt.We need DB's & OL first. Moving GRob inside seems like a no brainer at this point. Unless Boudreaux completely lost it those to T's (RS and GR) need to move / stay inside and go get us another tackle to bookend RH. TruJo is the multi million dollar question. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #12 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I've seen Quick and Tavon do it, but I'm also interested in play calls that scheme receivers open. They'll catch it and we just need a coach who can prove that. Imaging having guys wide open lol...I mean we do have a QB that can deliver that...I know what you mean tho that's why I'm hoping we pick up Alshon. Man that would be the bomb.Quick? For every big play he has made, he's had 5 or 6 drops to off set that. I can not wait for that waste of roster space to be gone for good. These big play WR I'm talking about win the 50/50 ball more often than our guys catch wide open passes... 1 by RamsCosign314 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13 Joined: Jan 15 2017 Albuquerque, NM Undrafted Free Agent Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR dieterbrock wrote:Quick? For every big play he has made, he's had 5 or 6 drops to off set that. I can not wait for that waste of roster space to be gone for good. These big play WR I'm talking about win the 50/50 ball more often than our guys catch wide open passes...I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though. by Neil039 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #14 RamsCosign314 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. 1 by SteakandEggs 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 133 Joined: Jun 01 2016 Long Beach Practice Squad Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #15 Tom, With Horns wrote:JC Tretter or AQ Shipley.TJ Lang.Pierre Garcon or DeSean Jackson.Robert Woods or Terrelle Pryor.Zach Brown.AJ Bouye or Trumaine Johnson.That's where I'm at so far. Are Garcon or Jackson considered better than Jeffery?Are any of them real #1 WR at this point? RFU Season Ticket Holder by Tom, With Horns 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 229 Joined: Jan 16 2016 Redding CA Rookie Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #16 RamsCosign314 wrote:Why do you like TJ Lang? And Desean is a beast. Maybe he could teach Tavon a thing or two??He's "criminally underrated." http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/mcginn/2016/10/29/mcginn-criminally-underrated-lang-limbo/92817066/He will, however, be expensive. Unlike Jack above, I tackled the wish list more like a list of players available I thought could help at positions of need. My expectation was not to add them all; compromises will be made. As for SteakandEgg's question: I have concerns about the viability and value of Jeffery. He will seriously have to be overpaid to be lured in, and is it worth it? We already have a $15 million WR on roster ... want another? ~ Tom Cummings by Hacksaw 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #17 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.Neil039 wrote:No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"!I see the big body receiver threat Fish was after. The guy that is supposed to win the 50/50 balls. They didn't though. It seemed obvious to me that the Rams pass catchers were sick of getting drilled in the back on their 5 yard routes when the team needed 6 for a 1st. The whole passing game was a train wreck. It didn't put guys in a position to succeed. So if McV is capable of doing what Fish and Co. weren't then some of the guys we have might be at least serviceable. I really have my doubts about Quick though. Sort of stiff. He looks awkward in his movement. Britt and TA, I'd keep around and see what they can do. Marquez is a good ST'er. Cooper looks like he has some promise and that flash of Spruce with his good hands was interesting,, although he might not have an NFL body.I'd like to see Alshon finally make it here and / or adding Garcon or Jackson would not hurt.We need DB's & OL first. Moving GRob inside seems like a no brainer at this point. Unless Boudreaux completely lost it those to T's (RS and GR) need to move / stay inside and go get us another tackle to bookend RH. TruJo is the multi million dollar question. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by RamsCosign314 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 13 Joined: Jan 15 2017 Albuquerque, NM Undrafted Free Agent Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #13 TOPIC AUTHOR dieterbrock wrote:Quick? For every big play he has made, he's had 5 or 6 drops to off set that. I can not wait for that waste of roster space to be gone for good. These big play WR I'm talking about win the 50/50 ball more often than our guys catch wide open passes...I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though. by Neil039 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #14 RamsCosign314 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. 1 by SteakandEggs 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 133 Joined: Jun 01 2016 Long Beach Practice Squad Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #15 Tom, With Horns wrote:JC Tretter or AQ Shipley.TJ Lang.Pierre Garcon or DeSean Jackson.Robert Woods or Terrelle Pryor.Zach Brown.AJ Bouye or Trumaine Johnson.That's where I'm at so far. Are Garcon or Jackson considered better than Jeffery?Are any of them real #1 WR at this point? RFU Season Ticket Holder by Tom, With Horns 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 229 Joined: Jan 16 2016 Redding CA Rookie Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #16 RamsCosign314 wrote:Why do you like TJ Lang? And Desean is a beast. Maybe he could teach Tavon a thing or two??He's "criminally underrated." http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/mcginn/2016/10/29/mcginn-criminally-underrated-lang-limbo/92817066/He will, however, be expensive. Unlike Jack above, I tackled the wish list more like a list of players available I thought could help at positions of need. My expectation was not to add them all; compromises will be made. As for SteakandEgg's question: I have concerns about the viability and value of Jeffery. He will seriously have to be overpaid to be lured in, and is it worth it? We already have a $15 million WR on roster ... want another? ~ Tom Cummings by Hacksaw 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #17 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.Neil039 wrote:No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"!I see the big body receiver threat Fish was after. The guy that is supposed to win the 50/50 balls. They didn't though. It seemed obvious to me that the Rams pass catchers were sick of getting drilled in the back on their 5 yard routes when the team needed 6 for a 1st. The whole passing game was a train wreck. It didn't put guys in a position to succeed. So if McV is capable of doing what Fish and Co. weren't then some of the guys we have might be at least serviceable. I really have my doubts about Quick though. Sort of stiff. He looks awkward in his movement. Britt and TA, I'd keep around and see what they can do. Marquez is a good ST'er. Cooper looks like he has some promise and that flash of Spruce with his good hands was interesting,, although he might not have an NFL body.I'd like to see Alshon finally make it here and / or adding Garcon or Jackson would not hurt.We need DB's & OL first. Moving GRob inside seems like a no brainer at this point. Unless Boudreaux completely lost it those to T's (RS and GR) need to move / stay inside and go get us another tackle to bookend RH. TruJo is the multi million dollar question. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Neil039 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 2664 Joined: Feb 02 2016 LA Coliseum Superstar Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #14 RamsCosign314 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"! The truly educated can listen to any view without losing their temper or self-confidence. 1 by SteakandEggs 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 133 Joined: Jun 01 2016 Long Beach Practice Squad Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #15 Tom, With Horns wrote:JC Tretter or AQ Shipley.TJ Lang.Pierre Garcon or DeSean Jackson.Robert Woods or Terrelle Pryor.Zach Brown.AJ Bouye or Trumaine Johnson.That's where I'm at so far. Are Garcon or Jackson considered better than Jeffery?Are any of them real #1 WR at this point? RFU Season Ticket Holder by Tom, With Horns 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 229 Joined: Jan 16 2016 Redding CA Rookie Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #16 RamsCosign314 wrote:Why do you like TJ Lang? And Desean is a beast. Maybe he could teach Tavon a thing or two??He's "criminally underrated." http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/mcginn/2016/10/29/mcginn-criminally-underrated-lang-limbo/92817066/He will, however, be expensive. Unlike Jack above, I tackled the wish list more like a list of players available I thought could help at positions of need. My expectation was not to add them all; compromises will be made. As for SteakandEgg's question: I have concerns about the viability and value of Jeffery. He will seriously have to be overpaid to be lured in, and is it worth it? We already have a $15 million WR on roster ... want another? ~ Tom Cummings by Hacksaw 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #17 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.Neil039 wrote:No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"!I see the big body receiver threat Fish was after. The guy that is supposed to win the 50/50 balls. They didn't though. It seemed obvious to me that the Rams pass catchers were sick of getting drilled in the back on their 5 yard routes when the team needed 6 for a 1st. The whole passing game was a train wreck. It didn't put guys in a position to succeed. So if McV is capable of doing what Fish and Co. weren't then some of the guys we have might be at least serviceable. I really have my doubts about Quick though. Sort of stiff. He looks awkward in his movement. Britt and TA, I'd keep around and see what they can do. Marquez is a good ST'er. Cooper looks like he has some promise and that flash of Spruce with his good hands was interesting,, although he might not have an NFL body.I'd like to see Alshon finally make it here and / or adding Garcon or Jackson would not hurt.We need DB's & OL first. Moving GRob inside seems like a no brainer at this point. Unless Boudreaux completely lost it those to T's (RS and GR) need to move / stay inside and go get us another tackle to bookend RH. TruJo is the multi million dollar question. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by SteakandEggs 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 133 Joined: Jun 01 2016 Long Beach Practice Squad Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #15 Tom, With Horns wrote:JC Tretter or AQ Shipley.TJ Lang.Pierre Garcon or DeSean Jackson.Robert Woods or Terrelle Pryor.Zach Brown.AJ Bouye or Trumaine Johnson.That's where I'm at so far. Are Garcon or Jackson considered better than Jeffery?Are any of them real #1 WR at this point? RFU Season Ticket Holder by Tom, With Horns 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 229 Joined: Jan 16 2016 Redding CA Rookie Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #16 RamsCosign314 wrote:Why do you like TJ Lang? And Desean is a beast. Maybe he could teach Tavon a thing or two??He's "criminally underrated." http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/mcginn/2016/10/29/mcginn-criminally-underrated-lang-limbo/92817066/He will, however, be expensive. Unlike Jack above, I tackled the wish list more like a list of players available I thought could help at positions of need. My expectation was not to add them all; compromises will be made. As for SteakandEgg's question: I have concerns about the viability and value of Jeffery. He will seriously have to be overpaid to be lured in, and is it worth it? We already have a $15 million WR on roster ... want another? ~ Tom Cummings by Hacksaw 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #17 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.Neil039 wrote:No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"!I see the big body receiver threat Fish was after. The guy that is supposed to win the 50/50 balls. They didn't though. It seemed obvious to me that the Rams pass catchers were sick of getting drilled in the back on their 5 yard routes when the team needed 6 for a 1st. The whole passing game was a train wreck. It didn't put guys in a position to succeed. So if McV is capable of doing what Fish and Co. weren't then some of the guys we have might be at least serviceable. I really have my doubts about Quick though. Sort of stiff. He looks awkward in his movement. Britt and TA, I'd keep around and see what they can do. Marquez is a good ST'er. Cooper looks like he has some promise and that flash of Spruce with his good hands was interesting,, although he might not have an NFL body.I'd like to see Alshon finally make it here and / or adding Garcon or Jackson would not hurt.We need DB's & OL first. Moving GRob inside seems like a no brainer at this point. Unless Boudreaux completely lost it those to T's (RS and GR) need to move / stay inside and go get us another tackle to bookend RH. TruJo is the multi million dollar question. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025
by Tom, With Horns 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 229 Joined: Jan 16 2016 Redding CA Rookie Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #16 RamsCosign314 wrote:Why do you like TJ Lang? And Desean is a beast. Maybe he could teach Tavon a thing or two??He's "criminally underrated." http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/mcginn/2016/10/29/mcginn-criminally-underrated-lang-limbo/92817066/He will, however, be expensive. Unlike Jack above, I tackled the wish list more like a list of players available I thought could help at positions of need. My expectation was not to add them all; compromises will be made. As for SteakandEgg's question: I have concerns about the viability and value of Jeffery. He will seriously have to be overpaid to be lured in, and is it worth it? We already have a $15 million WR on roster ... want another? ~ Tom Cummings by Hacksaw 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #17 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.Neil039 wrote:No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"!I see the big body receiver threat Fish was after. The guy that is supposed to win the 50/50 balls. They didn't though. It seemed obvious to me that the Rams pass catchers were sick of getting drilled in the back on their 5 yard routes when the team needed 6 for a 1st. The whole passing game was a train wreck. It didn't put guys in a position to succeed. So if McV is capable of doing what Fish and Co. weren't then some of the guys we have might be at least serviceable. I really have my doubts about Quick though. Sort of stiff. He looks awkward in his movement. Britt and TA, I'd keep around and see what they can do. Marquez is a good ST'er. Cooper looks like he has some promise and that flash of Spruce with his good hands was interesting,, although he might not have an NFL body.I'd like to see Alshon finally make it here and / or adding Garcon or Jackson would not hurt.We need DB's & OL first. Moving GRob inside seems like a no brainer at this point. Unless Boudreaux completely lost it those to T's (RS and GR) need to move / stay inside and go get us another tackle to bookend RH. TruJo is the multi million dollar question. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025
by Hacksaw 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #17 Neil039 liked this post RamsCosign314 wrote:I don't think many receivers could be successful in the Rams scheme. Because There were very little plays beyond 5-10 yards defenders could squat on routes or load the box, wait for hits. After a while hearing footsteps becomes normal. That's why I'm suggesting the Rams with better scheme could help these guys, quick included. It seems every pass was contested and that's coaching failure. I think change in coach change in scheme actually gives a real evaluation of these guys. I'll wait and see...I don't necessarily disagree with you though.Neil039 wrote:No offense, I read your take and understand your point. Reality is the players in question on this team, especially the offense, bare a larger burden than the coaches who are now gone. The coaches didn't drop balls, run poor routes, or miss blocks continuously. I agree the new staff will light a fire, but that personal fire to be the best was not evident for many of the "skilled positions" on offense. IMO more excuses were made for and by players than accountability. Hopefully McVay sees it that way and weeds out the "WEEDS"!I see the big body receiver threat Fish was after. The guy that is supposed to win the 50/50 balls. They didn't though. It seemed obvious to me that the Rams pass catchers were sick of getting drilled in the back on their 5 yard routes when the team needed 6 for a 1st. The whole passing game was a train wreck. It didn't put guys in a position to succeed. So if McV is capable of doing what Fish and Co. weren't then some of the guys we have might be at least serviceable. I really have my doubts about Quick though. Sort of stiff. He looks awkward in his movement. Britt and TA, I'd keep around and see what they can do. Marquez is a good ST'er. Cooper looks like he has some promise and that flash of Spruce with his good hands was interesting,, although he might not have an NFL body.I'd like to see Alshon finally make it here and / or adding Garcon or Jackson would not hurt.We need DB's & OL first. Moving GRob inside seems like a no brainer at this point. Unless Boudreaux completely lost it those to T's (RS and GR) need to move / stay inside and go get us another tackle to bookend RH. TruJo is the multi million dollar question. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS 1 by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025
by HopHead Ram 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1568 Joined: Jul 21 2016 The Left Coast Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #18 In regards to Tru. I think it all comes down to budget. You would think that Tru would want to come in a play under a coach like Phillips but the $$ has to make sense for both sides. If Tru walks then we will need to target a FA to replace because we have no other real option. Diehard RAMS fan since '74"The best beer in the world is the one in your hand" by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025
by dieterbrock 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #19 Alshon Jeffrey please by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 07 2025
by ramsfan1977 8 years 5 months ago Total posts: 1319 Joined: Nov 02 2015 New Jersey Pro Bowl Too Early For FA Wishlist? POST #20 4-12 with Tru and Britt, 4-12 without. Let them walk and invest money in O'line. Made wrong pick between Tru and Jackrabbit last year. Reply 2 / 3 1 2 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business