[Elvis]

It's strange that the Rams don't announce the Fisher extension.

Who the fuck knows with this team but I get the feeling Fisher will be gone 4 weeks from today on black Monday.

My guess is the Rams were waiting for the right moment and didn't realize when we were 3-1, that was the best it was going to be.

I agree: Fisher probably gone at end of season and who the hell knows with this team?

This is the first season in L.A., we have so little to go on...

[BuiltRamTough]

My guess is the Rams were waiting for the right moment and didn't realize when we were 3-1, that was the best it was going to be.

I agree: Fisher probably gone at end of season and who the hell knows with this team?

This is the first season in L.A., we have so little to go on...

If you want to go with Vinny B's theory I think it was a thank you extension and it was if you don't show improvement then you're gone.

The Rams were stuck in a weird spot bc they wanted him back but didn't think this team would improve under him.

It's a very weird situation overall. I'm rooting for the Rams to lose the next four. It's time man it's time for a change.

The Rams are the laughing stock of get NFL. Everyone is clowning them bc they don't want to unplug Fisher.

First it was the Goff hate but after 3 games no one is talking about Goff. They seen the potential in Goff.

Everyone and their mama is on the fire Fisher bandwagon.

[69superbowl]

SLF, Without having a feel for how much actual mental or emotional effort he puts into each of those endeavors - and I'm sure a load of other commitments - I just don't think the guy has the passion for NFL football to satisfy the rabid Rams fans that we are, and I will probably always be a little disappointed in that. If his teams excel, he'll get the credit for writing checks and picking "the right" leadership. If not, he gets to shrug his shoulders and write more checks without the burden of failing to win.

He's not going to talk to us about it and he doesn't sell his assets. For better or worse (probably worse) I'm a Rosenbloom, Rooney, Halas, and yes, even "Jerruh" & "Eddie D. the Douchebag", kind of ownership fan. The Rams are my team, and something I think about all year long. Based on what we have been allowed to know, E. Stash cannot possibly care as much about this team as we do. I hope I'm wrong and crap season after crap season (feel free to keep repeating "crap season" many more times) is getting to him too.

[St. Loser Fan]

Their big mistake IMO in St Louis was trying to build something for him instead of working with him to find a spot to build what he wanted. They had a chance with that.

What are you talking about?

The one proposal from the Rams was the $600+ million renovation of the Dome that would have been paid for by St. Louis area taxpayers: not by him. That proposal to tear down half of the stadium and put a partially retractable roof was a horrible idea.
1) the St. Louis Rams would have had to spend 3 whole seasons playing at the University of Missouri of University of Illinois. Both of which are about 2 or 2 1/2 hours from St. Louis.
2) the Dome would have been unusable during that time. No concerts. No monster truck jams. No basketball games.
3) the entire convention center would have been unusable for 18 to 24 months. Nearly two years of no conventions in St. Louis
4) it would have required the closing off of Broadway Ave. Imagine if the Staples Center expanded and Figueroa was permanently closed
5) the $600 million dome redo would have only bought peace until 2025. The Rams refused an extension and could have left after 7 or 8 years of playing in the renovated stadium.

After the city rejected the plan it was silence from the Rams and government officials. Never did they say talk about a plan B.

I'm not saying St. Louis is blameless. We screwed up big time 20+ years ago with the initial lease and the negotiations. But we're paying the price as everyone laughs at us. In addition the mayor of St. Louis chose not to run again, the St. Louis County chief executive quit and the governor of Missouri chose not to run for the Senate. So they paid the price.

You guys weep for Stan because St. Louis is being so mean to him. But has any owner that moved a sports team ever not been a villian?

[OldSchool]

What are you talking about?

The one proposal from the Rams was the $600+ million renovation of the Dome that would have been paid for by St. Louis area taxpayers: not by him. That proposal to tear down half of the stadium and put a partially retractable roof was a horrible idea.
1) the St. Louis Rams would have had to spend 3 whole seasons playing at the University of Missouri of University of Illinois. Both of which are about 2 or 2 1/2 hours from St. Louis.
2) the Dome would have been unusable during that time. No concerts. No monster truck jams. No basketball games.
3) the entire convention center would have been unusable for 18 to 24 months. Nearly two years of no conventions in St. Louis
4) it would have required the closing off of Broadway Ave. Imagine if the Staples Center expanded and Figueroa was permanently closed
5) the $600 million dome redo would have only bought peace until 2025. The Rams refused an extension and could have left after 7 or 8 years of playing in the renovated stadium.

After the city rejected the plan it was silence from the Rams and government officials. Never did they say talk about a plan B.

I'm not saying St. Louis is blameless. We screwed up big time 20+ years ago with the initial lease and the negotiations. But we're paying the price as everyone laughs at us. In addition the mayor of St. Louis chose not to run again, the St. Louis County chief executive quit and the governor of Missouri chose not to run for the Senate. So they paid the price.

You guys weep for Stan because St. Louis is being so mean to him. But has any owner that moved a sports team ever not been a villian?

Thanks for implying a bunch of things that I never said and I know I'll never come out of this discussion ahead but I'll respond anyways. After the top tier clause was shot down and the remodel of the dome was shot down the city should have done what I suggested. Work with Stan to get something built that he wanted. Instead they tried to build something so that he would be have to rent from them. That is what I was saying. I don't want to get into the top tier garbage again that's been argued to death. My comment focused on after that was shot down.

[St. Loser Fan]

Thanks for implying a bunch of things that I never said and I know I'll never come out of this discussion ahead but I'll respond anyways. After the top tier clause was shot down and the remodel of the dome was shot down the city should have done what I suggested. Work with Stan to get something built that he wanted. Instead they tried to build something so that he would be have to rent from them. That is what I was saying. I don't want to get into the top tier garbage again that's been argued to death. My comment focused on after that was shot down.

The point is Stan never bought land for a St. Louis "plan B". He presented the renovation plan that he knew St. Louis would never take. At the drop of a hat he could have bought the old Chrysler factory land in Fenton or any other pieces in the area then said "build me a stadium and the Rams stay in St. Louis". Instead he bought Hollywood Park.

[BuiltRamTough]

If he hires Gruden or Harbaugh.. I don't think anyone can say shit about his commitment to winning, personally.

Gruden or Harbaugh have to take the call for it to even be a realistic thing.

[dieterbrock]

As long as Fisher doesn't come back in 2017, you cant say he doesn't care about winning.
If the Rams job is open, the quality candidates will be available.
And Williams/Fassel are under contract so they would have to ask for their release if Fisher isn't back

[rams74]

The point is Stan never bought land for a St. Louis "plan B". He presented the renovation plan that he knew St. Louis would never take. At the drop of a hat he could have bought the old Chrysler factory land in Fenton or any other pieces in the area then said "build me a stadium and the Rams stay in St. Louis". Instead he bought Hollywood Park.

I agree. Up until the public announcement of the Hollywood Park purchase, I was truly mystified as to what Kroenke's ultimate intentions were. I could absolutely believe the story that the St. Louis fans perpetuated that it was a leverage play to get a better deal in the STL. But I preferred to think his mind was on L.A. After he bought Hollywood Park, I was convinced that he wanted nothing more to do with STL, other than leave it. There was never a "Plan B".

[ramblingnut]

Stumbled across this on yahoo..... best describes Kroenke's ability or lack thereof to run a major sports franchise.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ ... da1a5.html
I think it speaks for itself.