[BobCarl]

Who? I haven't asked Nate. I want to who actual humans think this guy is.

[Dare]

Bengals first round (mid) pick edge.

His measurables are very good. BUT his college production shows he's far from a finished product. He comes in very raw for a first round pick. They will have a ton of work to do on him in TC.

His success will depend upon how good his work ethic is and how coachable he is. He was looked at by many as a high to mid 2nd round pick.

[RainalldayRam]

He's the last non-signed 1st rounder right? ... Of course it's the bengals

[BobCarl]

He's the last non-signed 1st rounder right? ... Of course it's the bengals

Yes. That is my main question. And it has to do with why he won't sign his slotted contract.

He wants a fully guaranteed contract.

The Bengals are saying yes to that, however those future guarantees becomes void if he does something that results in significant disciplinary action.

Not only have all of the other 1st rounders signed, while they were all working out their contracts, they all signed a practice waiver so they could practice with the team.

Shemar Stewart refused to sign the practice waver, he sat out of OTAs. He Wants guarantees that can’t be voided even under extreme disciplinary circumstances—seeking clarity and protection.

The central sticking point remains the interpretation of “conduct detrimental” and whether it can void all guarantees, even in remote or extreme hypotheticals.

It looks like neither side are going to budge on this issue.

[RainalldayRam]

Bengals owner quoted as saying:

While speaking with the media this week, Bengals owner Mike Brown said, “If we get a player who…does something that is just unacceptable, guess what? I don’t want to pay him. I really don’t. If he’s sitting in jail, I don’t think I ought to be paying him.”

[actionjack]

Bengals owner quoted as saying:

While speaking with the media this week, Bengals owner Mike Brown said, “If we get a player who…does something that is just unacceptable, guess what? I don’t want to pay him. I really don’t. If he’s sitting in jail, I don’t think I ought to be paying him.”

I wonder why the Bengals drafted this guy anyway...

[Joe Pendleton]

what-d-ya call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?..

[Elvis]

Shemar and Trey Hendrickson both holding out. They just paid Chase and Higgins but Bengals generally known for being cheap...

[Rams1PlateSince1976]

Joe P: A Good Start.

[ramman2999]

Fucking Bengals.