by PARAM 4 weeks 1 day ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #31 Dare wrote:I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again.But you claim the Rams are gonna be moving on, so it's not up to him is it?FWIW, EVERYBODY knew they would draft a RB......mainly because McVay/Snead draft one EVERY YEAR. You believe that's a priority? Sure, an annual priority. 2018; John Kelly, 6th round (#176)2019; Darrell Henderson, 3rd round (#70)2020; Cam Akers, 2nd round (#52)2021; Jake Funk, 7th round (#233)2022; Kyren Williams, 5th round (#164)2023; Zach Evans, 6th round (#215)2024; Blake Corum, 3rd round (#83)2025; Jarquez Hunter, 4th round (#117)I'd say the guys in RED might have been "priorities" but then isn't every draft pick? The easy take is Kyren Williams should be threatened by Jarquez Hunter in the 4th round. Why not Blake Corum? Or better yet, why either? Ironically, to date, seeing all those guys perform, Kyren Williams in the 5th round was the best of the lot, though I'll wait to see how Corum and Hunter pan out. Corum didn't prove anything last year IMO.Here's a question.....has anybody heard what Williams and his agent are asking? Everybody says, "he wants to get paid 'accordingly'" but what is that? With Corum on a rookie deal for 3 more years and Hunter 4 years, they can invest in the RB room without killing the cap. It's not like there's a huge impasse. Williams is in camp. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by AltiTude Ram 3 weeks 1 day ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #32 PARAM liked this post 1 by Elvis 3 weeks 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #33 actionjack, PARAM liked this post McVay sounds like an extension is pretty likely to get done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by actionjack 3 weeks 23 hours ago Total posts: 5187 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #34 PARAM liked this post Elvis wrote:McVay sounds like an extension is pretty likely to get done.My same read, sounds like Kendrick maybe one of the dominoes, will see. Signing Kyren to a fair contract is good for both sides. Rams could use the continuity particularly with Stafford likely last two years ish. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy 1 by Dare 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 781 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #35 TOPIC AUTHOR https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2025/06/30/rams-kyren-williams-rushing-stats-explosiveness-metric/84415144007/This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RB. Williams is a good RB but this offense needs a RB that the defense must account for on every snap that he's on the field. Williams lack of explosiveness is why they "play run on their way to Stafford". You only need to look as far as the Eagles to see the difference in how defenses must play when Barkley is on the field.I like Williams more than Corum but not at the expense of a large cap hit. There are other offenses geared to moving the chains that would love Williams. This offense is evolving which is why I see this year as Atwell audition for a big contract elsewhere next year. When they drafted him he was a scheme fit but he took too long to develop and now I don't see him long term unless McVay changes the offense back in some aspects. But that would make Atwell a role player which would be a waste. I think Williams has value in a trade. You look at teams like the Colts they are definitely in the market for quality depth at RB and they have two LT's. Their backup looks promising in his limited exposure. I'm simply pointing out that with AJ perhaps down for the season the Rams might be looking to trade for a LT. Teams like the Colts have a good starter at LT who is still young. But the guy behind him doesn't look like a scrub. So could a team like that be interested in Williams? My bet is that someone would be. by PARAM 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #36 RainalldayRam liked this post He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!This newly invented metric is "why" you "knew" the Rams would look to upgrade their starting RB? With a 4th round pick.....after using a 3rd round pick in last year's draft? It couldn't be they were looking to diversify the running back room, replacing Ronnie Rivers with Jarquez Hunter?Well, now that we can see this new metric, that you saw prior to it's invention, we can add 'upgrading STARTING RB' to the long list of things you were right about. New RB, Sam Darnold and a first or second round rookie QB shows we're well on our way to another Lombardi! As soon as we find a trade partner for Kyren that is. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by Elvis 1 week 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #37 dare wrote:This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RBDid Kyren lose his starting job when i wasn't paying attention?8th best back in the NFL according to these guys: RFU Season Ticket Holder by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by AltiTude Ram 3 weeks 1 day ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #32 PARAM liked this post 1 by Elvis 3 weeks 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #33 actionjack, PARAM liked this post McVay sounds like an extension is pretty likely to get done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by actionjack 3 weeks 23 hours ago Total posts: 5187 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #34 PARAM liked this post Elvis wrote:McVay sounds like an extension is pretty likely to get done.My same read, sounds like Kendrick maybe one of the dominoes, will see. Signing Kyren to a fair contract is good for both sides. Rams could use the continuity particularly with Stafford likely last two years ish. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy 1 by Dare 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 781 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #35 TOPIC AUTHOR https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2025/06/30/rams-kyren-williams-rushing-stats-explosiveness-metric/84415144007/This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RB. Williams is a good RB but this offense needs a RB that the defense must account for on every snap that he's on the field. Williams lack of explosiveness is why they "play run on their way to Stafford". You only need to look as far as the Eagles to see the difference in how defenses must play when Barkley is on the field.I like Williams more than Corum but not at the expense of a large cap hit. There are other offenses geared to moving the chains that would love Williams. This offense is evolving which is why I see this year as Atwell audition for a big contract elsewhere next year. When they drafted him he was a scheme fit but he took too long to develop and now I don't see him long term unless McVay changes the offense back in some aspects. But that would make Atwell a role player which would be a waste. I think Williams has value in a trade. You look at teams like the Colts they are definitely in the market for quality depth at RB and they have two LT's. Their backup looks promising in his limited exposure. I'm simply pointing out that with AJ perhaps down for the season the Rams might be looking to trade for a LT. Teams like the Colts have a good starter at LT who is still young. But the guy behind him doesn't look like a scrub. So could a team like that be interested in Williams? My bet is that someone would be. by PARAM 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #36 RainalldayRam liked this post He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!This newly invented metric is "why" you "knew" the Rams would look to upgrade their starting RB? With a 4th round pick.....after using a 3rd round pick in last year's draft? It couldn't be they were looking to diversify the running back room, replacing Ronnie Rivers with Jarquez Hunter?Well, now that we can see this new metric, that you saw prior to it's invention, we can add 'upgrading STARTING RB' to the long list of things you were right about. New RB, Sam Darnold and a first or second round rookie QB shows we're well on our way to another Lombardi! As soon as we find a trade partner for Kyren that is. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by Elvis 1 week 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #37 dare wrote:This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RBDid Kyren lose his starting job when i wasn't paying attention?8th best back in the NFL according to these guys: RFU Season Ticket Holder by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 3 weeks 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #33 actionjack, PARAM liked this post McVay sounds like an extension is pretty likely to get done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by actionjack 3 weeks 23 hours ago Total posts: 5187 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #34 PARAM liked this post Elvis wrote:McVay sounds like an extension is pretty likely to get done.My same read, sounds like Kendrick maybe one of the dominoes, will see. Signing Kyren to a fair contract is good for both sides. Rams could use the continuity particularly with Stafford likely last two years ish. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy 1 by Dare 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 781 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #35 TOPIC AUTHOR https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2025/06/30/rams-kyren-williams-rushing-stats-explosiveness-metric/84415144007/This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RB. Williams is a good RB but this offense needs a RB that the defense must account for on every snap that he's on the field. Williams lack of explosiveness is why they "play run on their way to Stafford". You only need to look as far as the Eagles to see the difference in how defenses must play when Barkley is on the field.I like Williams more than Corum but not at the expense of a large cap hit. There are other offenses geared to moving the chains that would love Williams. This offense is evolving which is why I see this year as Atwell audition for a big contract elsewhere next year. When they drafted him he was a scheme fit but he took too long to develop and now I don't see him long term unless McVay changes the offense back in some aspects. But that would make Atwell a role player which would be a waste. I think Williams has value in a trade. You look at teams like the Colts they are definitely in the market for quality depth at RB and they have two LT's. Their backup looks promising in his limited exposure. I'm simply pointing out that with AJ perhaps down for the season the Rams might be looking to trade for a LT. Teams like the Colts have a good starter at LT who is still young. But the guy behind him doesn't look like a scrub. So could a team like that be interested in Williams? My bet is that someone would be. by PARAM 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #36 RainalldayRam liked this post He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!This newly invented metric is "why" you "knew" the Rams would look to upgrade their starting RB? With a 4th round pick.....after using a 3rd round pick in last year's draft? It couldn't be they were looking to diversify the running back room, replacing Ronnie Rivers with Jarquez Hunter?Well, now that we can see this new metric, that you saw prior to it's invention, we can add 'upgrading STARTING RB' to the long list of things you were right about. New RB, Sam Darnold and a first or second round rookie QB shows we're well on our way to another Lombardi! As soon as we find a trade partner for Kyren that is. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by Elvis 1 week 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #37 dare wrote:This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RBDid Kyren lose his starting job when i wasn't paying attention?8th best back in the NFL according to these guys: RFU Season Ticket Holder by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by actionjack 3 weeks 23 hours ago Total posts: 5187 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #34 PARAM liked this post Elvis wrote:McVay sounds like an extension is pretty likely to get done.My same read, sounds like Kendrick maybe one of the dominoes, will see. Signing Kyren to a fair contract is good for both sides. Rams could use the continuity particularly with Stafford likely last two years ish. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy 1 by Dare 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 781 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #35 TOPIC AUTHOR https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2025/06/30/rams-kyren-williams-rushing-stats-explosiveness-metric/84415144007/This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RB. Williams is a good RB but this offense needs a RB that the defense must account for on every snap that he's on the field. Williams lack of explosiveness is why they "play run on their way to Stafford". You only need to look as far as the Eagles to see the difference in how defenses must play when Barkley is on the field.I like Williams more than Corum but not at the expense of a large cap hit. There are other offenses geared to moving the chains that would love Williams. This offense is evolving which is why I see this year as Atwell audition for a big contract elsewhere next year. When they drafted him he was a scheme fit but he took too long to develop and now I don't see him long term unless McVay changes the offense back in some aspects. But that would make Atwell a role player which would be a waste. I think Williams has value in a trade. You look at teams like the Colts they are definitely in the market for quality depth at RB and they have two LT's. Their backup looks promising in his limited exposure. I'm simply pointing out that with AJ perhaps down for the season the Rams might be looking to trade for a LT. Teams like the Colts have a good starter at LT who is still young. But the guy behind him doesn't look like a scrub. So could a team like that be interested in Williams? My bet is that someone would be. by PARAM 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #36 RainalldayRam liked this post He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!This newly invented metric is "why" you "knew" the Rams would look to upgrade their starting RB? With a 4th round pick.....after using a 3rd round pick in last year's draft? It couldn't be they were looking to diversify the running back room, replacing Ronnie Rivers with Jarquez Hunter?Well, now that we can see this new metric, that you saw prior to it's invention, we can add 'upgrading STARTING RB' to the long list of things you were right about. New RB, Sam Darnold and a first or second round rookie QB shows we're well on our way to another Lombardi! As soon as we find a trade partner for Kyren that is. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by Elvis 1 week 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #37 dare wrote:This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RBDid Kyren lose his starting job when i wasn't paying attention?8th best back in the NFL according to these guys: RFU Season Ticket Holder by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Dare 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 781 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #35 TOPIC AUTHOR https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2025/06/30/rams-kyren-williams-rushing-stats-explosiveness-metric/84415144007/This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RB. Williams is a good RB but this offense needs a RB that the defense must account for on every snap that he's on the field. Williams lack of explosiveness is why they "play run on their way to Stafford". You only need to look as far as the Eagles to see the difference in how defenses must play when Barkley is on the field.I like Williams more than Corum but not at the expense of a large cap hit. There are other offenses geared to moving the chains that would love Williams. This offense is evolving which is why I see this year as Atwell audition for a big contract elsewhere next year. When they drafted him he was a scheme fit but he took too long to develop and now I don't see him long term unless McVay changes the offense back in some aspects. But that would make Atwell a role player which would be a waste. I think Williams has value in a trade. You look at teams like the Colts they are definitely in the market for quality depth at RB and they have two LT's. Their backup looks promising in his limited exposure. I'm simply pointing out that with AJ perhaps down for the season the Rams might be looking to trade for a LT. Teams like the Colts have a good starter at LT who is still young. But the guy behind him doesn't look like a scrub. So could a team like that be interested in Williams? My bet is that someone would be. by PARAM 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #36 RainalldayRam liked this post He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!This newly invented metric is "why" you "knew" the Rams would look to upgrade their starting RB? With a 4th round pick.....after using a 3rd round pick in last year's draft? It couldn't be they were looking to diversify the running back room, replacing Ronnie Rivers with Jarquez Hunter?Well, now that we can see this new metric, that you saw prior to it's invention, we can add 'upgrading STARTING RB' to the long list of things you were right about. New RB, Sam Darnold and a first or second round rookie QB shows we're well on our way to another Lombardi! As soon as we find a trade partner for Kyren that is. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by Elvis 1 week 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #37 dare wrote:This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RBDid Kyren lose his starting job when i wasn't paying attention?8th best back in the NFL according to these guys: RFU Season Ticket Holder by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025
by PARAM 1 week 2 days ago Total posts: 13221 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #36 RainalldayRam liked this post He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!This newly invented metric is "why" you "knew" the Rams would look to upgrade their starting RB? With a 4th round pick.....after using a 3rd round pick in last year's draft? It couldn't be they were looking to diversify the running back room, replacing Ronnie Rivers with Jarquez Hunter?Well, now that we can see this new metric, that you saw prior to it's invention, we can add 'upgrading STARTING RB' to the long list of things you were right about. New RB, Sam Darnold and a first or second round rookie QB shows we're well on our way to another Lombardi! As soon as we find a trade partner for Kyren that is. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by Elvis 1 week 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #37 dare wrote:This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RBDid Kyren lose his starting job when i wasn't paying attention?8th best back in the NFL according to these guys: RFU Season Ticket Holder by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025
by Elvis 1 week 1 day ago Total posts: 41513 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #37 dare wrote:This is why I knew they would look to upgrade their starting RBDid Kyren lose his starting job when i wasn't paying attention?8th best back in the NFL according to these guys: RFU Season Ticket Holder by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025
by AltiTude Ram 2 days 11 hours ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #38 Good discussion on Kyren. by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025
by /zn/ 9 hours 25 minutes ago Total posts: 6943 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 10 2025, edited 2 times in total. PARAM wrote:He can't break tackles. He doesn't have breakaway speed. He's near the bottom of these newly invented metrics. But he has trade value? Sure, because he's like Chris Carter of Buddy Ryan's Eagles, which Ryan complained....."all he does is score touchdowns" (and make first downs)!I posted this in a different thread but it belongs here so I am moving it. I've said this before, but I like repeating it. Kyren's superpowers are all evident in the backfield before he hits the LOS. Past the LOS he has great contact balance, is a fierce and determined runner, but is not particularly quick or fast or powerful or elusive. He's not bad past the LOS, just a bit above average. On the other hand, behind the LOS he is a great RB--he knows how to set up LBs, has a nice quick initial burst, has great vision, reads his blocks and is very good at using his blockers, has great anticipation, and is pretty much always hitting the exact right spot at exactly the right millisecond.He keeps you in play. He moves the chains. It's not just that he does that, he's superior at it. To drive this point home. He may just be above average past the LOS, but he is superior behind the LOS ie. running toward the LOS. Just find any series where they run him a lot, watch him, and this becomes very visible. Beyond the LOS he's good, but while he is obviously not Faulk, or Gurley, or Dickerson, or Bettis past the LOS, behind the LOS, from the point of the hand off to hitting his lane at the LOS, he is their equal if not in some subtle ways maybe even better than a couple of those guys.Which is why he was 3rd in the league in 2024 in rushing yards before contact. Also, in 2024 he was 7th in the league in yards after contact per attempt. 3rd in broken tackles. 2nd in 10+ yard runs. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.phpTo quote PFF (which repeats 1 stat I just gave), KW ranks in the top five on a per-game basis in rushing yards (87.3), yards after contact (57.9), rushing touchdowns (0.93), rushing avoided tackles (3.8) and PPR fantasy points (18.8).https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyren-williams/97118The issue with KW is fumbles. If he can fix that (and he indicated he's working on it) then he is a very valuable back. ... by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 42 posts Jul 10 2025
by Joe Pendleton 4 hours 16 minutes ago Total posts: 2152 Joined: Jun 12 2021 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #40 /zn/ liked this post great analysis Zn, i love the way that Kyren plays with an attitude and attacks the hole/los .. and i'm a huge fan. But, man those fumbles are "game changers" and cannot continue (smh).. hope he "get's her right" (as we say in boatspeak).. hold onto the darn rock KW !!! "Haven't you learned the rules of probability and outcome Joe? Aren't you aware that every question of life and death remains a probability until the outcome?" - Mr. Jordan (Heaven can wait) 1 Reply 4 / 5 1 4 5 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business