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 by Joe Pendleton
6 hours 4 minutes ago
 Total posts:   2141  
 Joined:  Jun 12 2021
Virgin Islands (USA)   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

wow, pitt is seriously "going all in" this year.. "all the chips on the table".. crazy!

 by rams74
5 hours 47 minutes ago
 Total posts:   1743  
 Joined:  Nov 19 2015
Italy   Glendale, Arizona
Pro Bowl

Elvis wrote:

That's a lot of money for a corner who's past his prime. Twice as much as Aaron Rodgers' salary.

Didn't think anybody would pony up like that for Ramsey.

 by Joe Pendleton
5 hours 39 minutes ago
 Total posts:   2141  
 Joined:  Jun 12 2021
Virgin Islands (USA)   LA Coliseum
Pro Bowl

agreed. i was thinking he would take whatever to get a ring, but i guess no.. i hope a-rod tanks this season :lol2:

 by Elvis
5 hours 13 minutes ago
 Total posts:   41492  
 Joined:  Mar 28 2015
United States of America   Los Angeles
Administrator

I'm surprised Miami didn't have to eat more of his contract than they did. For Pittsburgh, if they really think they got a shot at the SB and are going all in, you don't mind overpaying here and there. Rams have certainly done it in the past...

 by actionjack
5 hours 1 minute ago
 Total posts:   5177  
 Joined:  May 19 2016
United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:Man, if this is right, Steelers are all in:


two of my good friends who are Steeler fans both were hoping for 0-17 to finally get a QB.

 by actionjack
5 hours 26 seconds ago
 Total posts:   5177  
 Joined:  May 19 2016
United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

Elvis wrote:I'm surprised Miami didn't have to eat more of his contract than they did. For Pittsburgh, if they really think they got a shot at the SB and are going all in, you don't mind overpaying here and there. Rams have certainly done it in the past...


Zero chance this works out IMO. The AFC is just too tough. You get one year with A-rod then miss your opp to finally get a QB. Dumb

 by rams74
4 hours 57 minutes ago
 Total posts:   1743  
 Joined:  Nov 19 2015
Italy   Glendale, Arizona
Pro Bowl

ESPN grades the trade:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/453 ... orst-deals

Dolphins trade Ramsey, Smith to Steelers for Fitzpatrick

Steelers get: CB Jalen Ramsey, TE Jonnu Smith, 2027 seventh-round pick
Dolphins get: S Minkah Fitzpatrick, 2027 fifth-round pick

Steelers' grade: C
Dolphins' grade: A

This was truly a stunner.

While it had been made abundantly clear that Ramsey was not going to be on the Dolphins in 2025, the fact that it was the Steelers trading for him -- there had long been rumors Ramsey might be headed back to the Rams -- was a surprise. It was a complete shock that Fitzpatrick was the compensation in return. And Smith lumped in, too? Folks, this was a June blockbuster.

Let's break this down from the more complex Steelers side first. By signing quarterback Aaron Rodgers, the team signaled it is taking a long-shot swing at another run while in the tail end of the T.J. Watt/Cameron Heyward era. It had money to spend -- Pittsburgh has the third-most cap space in 2026. But adding Ramsey and Smith in exchange for Fitzpatrick is still jarring.

Ramsey, 30, is generally considered to be on the decline, though nearest defender numbers would somewhat dispute that. Last season, Ramsey allowed 0.9 yards per coverage snap, per NFL Next Gen Stats, better than the outside cornerback average of 1.1. He did that while mostly playing an outside corner role (he aligned as a wide CB 78% of the time). He also rushed the passer 36 times with Miami last year, the most of any season in his career.

It will be interesting to see what Ramsey's role is with Pittsburgh. With Joey Porter Jr. and Darius Slay Jr. (presumably?) installed as the outside corners, the team can employ Ramsey as a nickel and/or safety -- with the latter part seemingly particularly feasible given Fitzpatrick's inclusion in the trade. Ramsey played significant snaps as a slot corner when he was with the Rams and very occasionally aligned as a safety with the Jaguars early in his career, per NFL Next Gen Stats.

If Ramsey played some sort of hybrid nickel/safety role, that would not be a like-for-like replacement of what the Steelers had Fitzpatrick do last season. Fitzpatrick played deep safety 80% of the time, and a lot of that was in center field since the Steelers played two-high at the fourth-lowest rate in the league. At safety, the Steelers now have DeShon Elliott and Juan Thornhill. Elliott played more of a box safety/slot role last season but has played more deep safety (coincidentally enough, with Miami) in the past. And Thornhill played a deep safety role in 11 starts with Cleveland last season.

The financial compensation matters here. The Steelers are picking up nearly the entirety of Ramsey's tab -- the bulk of his $26.6 million in 2025 after giving him a light raise. That's a pretty hefty amount of money for him at this stage in his career -- and especially if he isn't playing outside cornerback. Prior to this trade getting done, I wasn't even sure Miami was going to find a team willing to pick up the entirety of Ramsey's pre-raise contract. Yes, the Steelers have the cap room, but that they could take on the contract ought to have helped them in the trade negotiation; I don't know if I see where it really did. Ramsey is under non-guaranteed team control for $21-24 million in cash in each of 2026, 2027 and 2028, per OverTheCap.com.

Fitzpatrick, meanwhile, has two years left on his deal and will cost Miami $15.5 million in 2025 and $17.6 million in 2026. Those terms probably offer the Dolphins good value for Fitzpatrick, who made the Pro Bowl again last season.

Smith seems to be an acquisition made with offensive coordinator Arthur Smith in mind. The pair worked together in Tennessee (where Jonnu Smith had 137 YAC over expectation in 2019, per NFL Next Gen Stats) and Atlanta. The addition likely means the Steelers will frequently play multiple tight ends at once, with Smith alongside Pat Freiermuth and Darnell Washington.

But I can't help but think the Steelers are dealing for Smith at his absolute peak. Smith is coming off a career year in which he recorded 88 receptions for 884 yards with the Dolphins, but that doesn't mean we ought to forget about the seven years of relative mediocrity that came before it. Smith was underpaid on his old contract, yes, but Pittsburgh is giving him a one-year extension for $12 million, which could wipe out that value (though we don't know the structure yet).

Altogether, I have a hard time getting on board with this move for the Steelers. It's logical for them to improve the team to maximize their upside. And there is upside, particularly because the defense has the potential to be great. But I don't know that this move really improved Pittsburgh in 2025 or beyond, and it came at a cost. The optimistic view is that Ramsey has been a star in the past and can be a star again, and we might well look back on this trade as being part of the realization of that upside case for Pittsburgh's defense.

Let's flip over to Miami's side here, which is both more straightforward and, from my perspective, a pretty clear win.

The Dolphins had been looking for a taker on Ramsey. I assumed this would involve the Dolphins eating a portion of Ramsey's guaranteed salary, but they ended up finding a trade partner that took on just about the full freight. Losing Smith isn't ideal, but the Dolphins' offense is intended to funnel through Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle, who each took a step back last season. If all goes as planned for Miami, far more targets should go to the two wideouts again in 2025. And the same analysis on Smith holds here, too: The Dolphins -- who are in a far tighter cap situation -- didn't want to overpay the tight end after a career year, and that makes sense.

After losing Jevon Holland in free agency, the Dolphins backfilled the safety position with two new acquisitions: Ashtyn Davis (from the Jets) and Ifeatu Melifonwu (from the Lions), both on cheap deals. In Fitzpatrick, they now have an established high-end safety to replace Holland and get him at essentially the same numbers the Giants paid Holland (and with no guarantees).

To top it all off, Miami gets a late-round draft pick swap in its favor in this deal. Miami wasn't in an ideal position, having one veteran it needed to trade and another desiring a new contract the team didn't want to give. But by making this deal with the Steelers, the Dolphins got the most out of the hand they had.

 by ramsww
4 hours 36 minutes ago
 Total posts:   759  
 Joined:  Aug 11 2022
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Veteran

I hope he has Elite years left. I thank Ramsey for helping the Rams get a ring. Rams made the right, non-move here. I’m sure they wanted him but at what price? Better start developing somebody into a starting CB. It was MLB last year. This year, CB is looking bleak at least so far.

 by actionjack
3 hours 40 minutes ago
 Total posts:   5177  
 Joined:  May 19 2016
United States of America   Sactown
Hall of Fame

Ramsey getting crazy money, all his salary plus 1.5 million. I dont get the Steelers..

 by WaddyWasWideOpen
3 hours 40 minutes ago
 Total posts:   201  
 Joined:  May 12 2016
United States of America   LA Coliseum
Rookie

where is the info on why LA didnt get JR? Sure seems LA wanted him. And the price did not seem unrealistic at all. So Les, WTF happened?! Because we all know Rams pass D hasnt been anything special. 3rd and 16? No problem. LA either gives up easy 20 yarder or get a PI or D holding flag.

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