by Elvis 1 month 1 week ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator What if? POST #21 Joe Pendleton, PARAM liked this post Most Rams fans seem to think the Rams are terrible at these short yardage situations... RFU Season Ticket Holder 2 by PARAM 1 month 1 week ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? POST #22 Elvis wrote:Most Rams fans seem to think the Rams are terrible at these short yardage situations...They must think home run threat is more important than short yardage performance!! I wonder where the Rams rank there? 28th? 30th?⁰ Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? POST #23 Long way to go until September but: RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: What if? POST #24 I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back. by PARAM 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? POST #25 snackdaddy wrote:I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back.Hell even with the fumbles he's pretty damn good. This RB room looks better. Corum should see more time and if he progresses, be better. McVay doesn't typically trust rookie RBs but Corum saw some playing time, so maybe that's changed a bit? Hunter, with his speed may play more than we expect. Or not. Either way, I'm amped to see all 3 of these guys and more 12 P.But yeah, KW ain't going anywhere else this year. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #26 Kyren and James Cook are in very similar situations. Cook showed up for camp today. This is not even a question for Kyren but both are in last year of rookie deal, want extensions, similar value to their team, etc... RFU Season Ticket Holder by ziggy 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 712 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #27 Joe Pendleton liked this post I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else. 1 by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 1 month 1 week ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? POST #22 Elvis wrote:Most Rams fans seem to think the Rams are terrible at these short yardage situations...They must think home run threat is more important than short yardage performance!! I wonder where the Rams rank there? 28th? 30th?⁰ Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? POST #23 Long way to go until September but: RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: What if? POST #24 I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back. by PARAM 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? POST #25 snackdaddy wrote:I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back.Hell even with the fumbles he's pretty damn good. This RB room looks better. Corum should see more time and if he progresses, be better. McVay doesn't typically trust rookie RBs but Corum saw some playing time, so maybe that's changed a bit? Hunter, with his speed may play more than we expect. Or not. Either way, I'm amped to see all 3 of these guys and more 12 P.But yeah, KW ain't going anywhere else this year. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #26 Kyren and James Cook are in very similar situations. Cook showed up for camp today. This is not even a question for Kyren but both are in last year of rookie deal, want extensions, similar value to their team, etc... RFU Season Ticket Holder by ziggy 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 712 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #27 Joe Pendleton liked this post I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else. 1 by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? POST #23 Long way to go until September but: RFU Season Ticket Holder by snackdaddy 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: What if? POST #24 I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back. by PARAM 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? POST #25 snackdaddy wrote:I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back.Hell even with the fumbles he's pretty damn good. This RB room looks better. Corum should see more time and if he progresses, be better. McVay doesn't typically trust rookie RBs but Corum saw some playing time, so maybe that's changed a bit? Hunter, with his speed may play more than we expect. Or not. Either way, I'm amped to see all 3 of these guys and more 12 P.But yeah, KW ain't going anywhere else this year. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #26 Kyren and James Cook are in very similar situations. Cook showed up for camp today. This is not even a question for Kyren but both are in last year of rookie deal, want extensions, similar value to their team, etc... RFU Season Ticket Holder by ziggy 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 712 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #27 Joe Pendleton liked this post I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else. 1 by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by snackdaddy 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 10043 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: What if? POST #24 I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back. by PARAM 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? POST #25 snackdaddy wrote:I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back.Hell even with the fumbles he's pretty damn good. This RB room looks better. Corum should see more time and if he progresses, be better. McVay doesn't typically trust rookie RBs but Corum saw some playing time, so maybe that's changed a bit? Hunter, with his speed may play more than we expect. Or not. Either way, I'm amped to see all 3 of these guys and more 12 P.But yeah, KW ain't going anywhere else this year. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #26 Kyren and James Cook are in very similar situations. Cook showed up for camp today. This is not even a question for Kyren but both are in last year of rookie deal, want extensions, similar value to their team, etc... RFU Season Ticket Holder by ziggy 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 712 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #27 Joe Pendleton liked this post I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else. 1 by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 1 month 5 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? POST #25 snackdaddy wrote:I don't see a scenario where Kyren Williams is not on the roster this year. It would be a mistake to move on from him now. I don't know if he'll be with the team next year. But they gotta know how important he is to the offense. Fumbles notwithstanding. Fumbles. Its something they are all aware of. I gotta think ball security is one area they will be spending extra time on. If he reduces them to around 2 per year he becomes a top 3 running back.Hell even with the fumbles he's pretty damn good. This RB room looks better. Corum should see more time and if he progresses, be better. McVay doesn't typically trust rookie RBs but Corum saw some playing time, so maybe that's changed a bit? Hunter, with his speed may play more than we expect. Or not. Either way, I'm amped to see all 3 of these guys and more 12 P.But yeah, KW ain't going anywhere else this year. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #26 Kyren and James Cook are in very similar situations. Cook showed up for camp today. This is not even a question for Kyren but both are in last year of rookie deal, want extensions, similar value to their team, etc... RFU Season Ticket Holder by ziggy 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 712 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #27 Joe Pendleton liked this post I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else. 1 by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025
by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #26 Kyren and James Cook are in very similar situations. Cook showed up for camp today. This is not even a question for Kyren but both are in last year of rookie deal, want extensions, similar value to their team, etc... RFU Season Ticket Holder by ziggy 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 712 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #27 Joe Pendleton liked this post I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else. 1 by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025
by ziggy 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 712 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #27 Joe Pendleton liked this post I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else. 1 by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025
by Elvis 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 41492 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #28 I was listening to the Spotrac podcast yesterday and he was saying a 2 yr $10 mil per extension made sense for either Kyren or Cook.If Cook gets extended, probably gives us a good idea what a Kyren extension would look like... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025
by PARAM 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 13212 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #29 ziggy wrote:I think the only value in sitting (basically holding out for contract) occurs when you significantly over perform against your contract. Then the value is obvious and other teams are chomping at the bit to 'correct' the situation by signing you for significantly more than your current contract.In Kyren's case, he has 2 issues going against him. 1, The Rams have demonstrated they are not in a position to 'set the market' for the RB position. 2, He has not over performed against his contract-- in fact, he currently has a reputation for fumbling the ball. So he actually has an incentive to stay, train, and play for the Rams to correct this current story line.I think the Rams would like to take this opportunity to sign KW to a 'fair' deal because they think he has fully bought into the 'Rams' culture and lives up to the ethos. Its up to his agent to accept the 'fair' deal or gamble that he has a break out season and look for a market setting deal at the end of the season with the Rams or somebody else.I don't know what is "fair" for his production the last 2 years but that production has been pretty good. Sure he fumbles some. But the last two years he was #5 (2024) and #3 (2023) in total TDs. Along with #7 (2024) and #3 (2023) in rushing yards. He's averaged almost 275 rushing attempts over that period. Josh Jacobs has 1 less fumble than KW the last 2 years. KW needs to clean that up and if he does, those numbers might be even better. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 36 posts Jul 01 2025
by Dare 2 weeks 6 days ago Total posts: 778 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran What if? (Kyren Williams Thread) POST #30 TOPIC AUTHOR I think the die was cast before the draft. It's why I knew that RB was going to be a priority. Williams has had a ton of usage. Then factor in his untimely fumbles and now expecting premium money, I don't see it happening. If he wants to stay with the Rams he has to lower his salary expectation. Like I've been thinking he's worth more to the Rams as trade bait. They don't have the cap to spend on a RB with both Hunter and Corum behind him. Blake proved he's a decent backup RB last year.The Rams gave in to Gurley and it cost them bigtime. I don't see Snead or Kroenke wanting to go down that road again. Reply 3 / 4 1 3 4 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business