by Dare 14 hours 21 minutes ago Total posts: 608 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran QB POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR Last night I was having some beer and chips (with guac) with some friends who are fans of other teams. One guy was from Jacksonville, and posed a question to me. With Coen and Waldron on the team the question was directed at me. Last year there was apparently a debate among senior leadership (i.e. front office) about extending Trevor Lawrence. Some said they were spinning their wheels trying to build a team quick enough around him while his costs are escalating. This year they are picking 3rd in the draft and in position to take Ward or Sanders with the benefit of the 5th year option controlling the costs while they rebuild. Lawrence is at his peak value now. The argument was what if Lawrence isn't ready to start in Sept? He has a shoulder injury. His trade value is already diminished to teams that can afford if necessary, to sit him for a year to allow him to heal completely.My friend asked me if I thought the Rams would be interested and what might Lawrence bring? I told him that with Stafford the Rams are going to sit the next presumably rookie for at least a year. The Rams could afford to sit Lawrence for the year on IR. They would probably give the Jags 3 firsts for him. That would go a long ways to rebuilding their franchise.The Rams would see that the cost would be $17M in 2025, $24M 2026 and $35M in 2027. I told him IMO the Rams would absolutely take that. The Jags would then have 6 first round picks over the next 3 years and it they can't rebuild with that they never will. I asked him if the idea was actually being floated. He said "rumors" and I laughed and shook my head.But they are looking at Detroit and how trading Stafford jumped started their rebuild. A rookie QB gives them 5 years of affordable contracts. My friend said that if Snead were to approach them they would probably seriously listen. I tend to agree. by Youngblood22 14 hours 13 minutes ago Total posts: 85 Joined: Aug 31 2023 LA Coliseum Practice Squad QB POST #2 No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine that by actionjack 13 hours 47 minutes ago Total posts: 4914 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Superstar QB POST #3 Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine that Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 13 hours 42 minutes ago Total posts: 12951 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame QB POST #4 Last edited by PARAM on Mar 11 2025, edited 1 time in total. Indrid Cold, FMulder liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatThe guy is smokin some serious ganja!!! Most people who interact on an internet sports forum talk, discuss, debate, etc. Others just like the clickity clack of their keyboard. I realized a long time ago, there is more to learn on one of these sites than there is to teach. And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by rams74 13 hours 39 minutes ago Total posts: 1659 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl QB POST #5 actionjack liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatHe does this on purpose, you know. 1 by Indrid Cold 13 hours 19 minutes ago Total posts: 953 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran QB POST #6 actionjack, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend".Lots and lots of words for total non-starter ideas. Of course, could get onboard with the Rams' plan and everyone else here...Rams are going for the SB with Stafford for the next 2 years and don't give a crap about who the next QB is. 2 by Elvis 13 hours 2 minutes ago Total posts: 40782 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator QB POST #7 actionjack liked this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17307&p=297330&hilit=lawrence#p297330Earlier on Lawrence:Dare wrote:I saw that stuff too and thought pretty much as you are. But the estimated cost of 3 first round picks minimum is really high. Also, he's not really plug n play. He's got a whole lot of issues that suggest either coaching issues with the Panthers (most likely) or work ethic with the player. He will need a year to learn the offense and get coached up. That said what's the difference between him and a rookie?He throws a lot of INTs which suggests he isn't reading well either through poor prep (his part) or coaching. A rookie like Leonard will cost 2 first round picks to get to about #10 where the Bears pick who don't need a QB. Leonard is projected to go in that range.The Rams have the perfect QBs to mentor a rookie in Stafford or Jimmy who would be the bridge. If he struggles badly in his second year then if they signed Jimmy to a 2 year deal they have a ready to play vet in house.If Jimmy wins a Lombardi and they want to ride him no problem because that rookie QB is on a rookie contract. The rookie can be trade bait if Jimmy works out. If Lawrence bombs you are out 3 picks with no QB.That is why I think if they are going to draft a QB then Jimmy on a 2-3 yr deal gives them security at the position that you don't get with Stafford who will cost them about $50M next year alone. One of the beat writers for the Rams suggested that some comments by Stafford after Sunday's game makes her believe he knows he's done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 8 posts Mar 12 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Youngblood22 14 hours 13 minutes ago Total posts: 85 Joined: Aug 31 2023 LA Coliseum Practice Squad QB POST #2 No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine that by actionjack 13 hours 47 minutes ago Total posts: 4914 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Superstar QB POST #3 Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine that Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 13 hours 42 minutes ago Total posts: 12951 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame QB POST #4 Last edited by PARAM on Mar 11 2025, edited 1 time in total. Indrid Cold, FMulder liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatThe guy is smokin some serious ganja!!! Most people who interact on an internet sports forum talk, discuss, debate, etc. Others just like the clickity clack of their keyboard. I realized a long time ago, there is more to learn on one of these sites than there is to teach. And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by rams74 13 hours 39 minutes ago Total posts: 1659 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl QB POST #5 actionjack liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatHe does this on purpose, you know. 1 by Indrid Cold 13 hours 19 minutes ago Total posts: 953 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran QB POST #6 actionjack, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend".Lots and lots of words for total non-starter ideas. Of course, could get onboard with the Rams' plan and everyone else here...Rams are going for the SB with Stafford for the next 2 years and don't give a crap about who the next QB is. 2 by Elvis 13 hours 2 minutes ago Total posts: 40782 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator QB POST #7 actionjack liked this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17307&p=297330&hilit=lawrence#p297330Earlier on Lawrence:Dare wrote:I saw that stuff too and thought pretty much as you are. But the estimated cost of 3 first round picks minimum is really high. Also, he's not really plug n play. He's got a whole lot of issues that suggest either coaching issues with the Panthers (most likely) or work ethic with the player. He will need a year to learn the offense and get coached up. That said what's the difference between him and a rookie?He throws a lot of INTs which suggests he isn't reading well either through poor prep (his part) or coaching. A rookie like Leonard will cost 2 first round picks to get to about #10 where the Bears pick who don't need a QB. Leonard is projected to go in that range.The Rams have the perfect QBs to mentor a rookie in Stafford or Jimmy who would be the bridge. If he struggles badly in his second year then if they signed Jimmy to a 2 year deal they have a ready to play vet in house.If Jimmy wins a Lombardi and they want to ride him no problem because that rookie QB is on a rookie contract. The rookie can be trade bait if Jimmy works out. If Lawrence bombs you are out 3 picks with no QB.That is why I think if they are going to draft a QB then Jimmy on a 2-3 yr deal gives them security at the position that you don't get with Stafford who will cost them about $50M next year alone. One of the beat writers for the Rams suggested that some comments by Stafford after Sunday's game makes her believe he knows he's done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 8 posts Mar 12 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by actionjack 13 hours 47 minutes ago Total posts: 4914 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Superstar QB POST #3 Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine that Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 13 hours 42 minutes ago Total posts: 12951 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame QB POST #4 Last edited by PARAM on Mar 11 2025, edited 1 time in total. Indrid Cold, FMulder liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatThe guy is smokin some serious ganja!!! Most people who interact on an internet sports forum talk, discuss, debate, etc. Others just like the clickity clack of their keyboard. I realized a long time ago, there is more to learn on one of these sites than there is to teach. And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by rams74 13 hours 39 minutes ago Total posts: 1659 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl QB POST #5 actionjack liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatHe does this on purpose, you know. 1 by Indrid Cold 13 hours 19 minutes ago Total posts: 953 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran QB POST #6 actionjack, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend".Lots and lots of words for total non-starter ideas. Of course, could get onboard with the Rams' plan and everyone else here...Rams are going for the SB with Stafford for the next 2 years and don't give a crap about who the next QB is. 2 by Elvis 13 hours 2 minutes ago Total posts: 40782 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator QB POST #7 actionjack liked this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17307&p=297330&hilit=lawrence#p297330Earlier on Lawrence:Dare wrote:I saw that stuff too and thought pretty much as you are. But the estimated cost of 3 first round picks minimum is really high. Also, he's not really plug n play. He's got a whole lot of issues that suggest either coaching issues with the Panthers (most likely) or work ethic with the player. He will need a year to learn the offense and get coached up. That said what's the difference between him and a rookie?He throws a lot of INTs which suggests he isn't reading well either through poor prep (his part) or coaching. A rookie like Leonard will cost 2 first round picks to get to about #10 where the Bears pick who don't need a QB. Leonard is projected to go in that range.The Rams have the perfect QBs to mentor a rookie in Stafford or Jimmy who would be the bridge. If he struggles badly in his second year then if they signed Jimmy to a 2 year deal they have a ready to play vet in house.If Jimmy wins a Lombardi and they want to ride him no problem because that rookie QB is on a rookie contract. The rookie can be trade bait if Jimmy works out. If Lawrence bombs you are out 3 picks with no QB.That is why I think if they are going to draft a QB then Jimmy on a 2-3 yr deal gives them security at the position that you don't get with Stafford who will cost them about $50M next year alone. One of the beat writers for the Rams suggested that some comments by Stafford after Sunday's game makes her believe he knows he's done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 8 posts Mar 12 2025
by PARAM 13 hours 42 minutes ago Total posts: 12951 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame QB POST #4 Last edited by PARAM on Mar 11 2025, edited 1 time in total. Indrid Cold, FMulder liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatThe guy is smokin some serious ganja!!! Most people who interact on an internet sports forum talk, discuss, debate, etc. Others just like the clickity clack of their keyboard. I realized a long time ago, there is more to learn on one of these sites than there is to teach. And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 2 by rams74 13 hours 39 minutes ago Total posts: 1659 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl QB POST #5 actionjack liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatHe does this on purpose, you know. 1 by Indrid Cold 13 hours 19 minutes ago Total posts: 953 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran QB POST #6 actionjack, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend".Lots and lots of words for total non-starter ideas. Of course, could get onboard with the Rams' plan and everyone else here...Rams are going for the SB with Stafford for the next 2 years and don't give a crap about who the next QB is. 2 by Elvis 13 hours 2 minutes ago Total posts: 40782 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator QB POST #7 actionjack liked this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17307&p=297330&hilit=lawrence#p297330Earlier on Lawrence:Dare wrote:I saw that stuff too and thought pretty much as you are. But the estimated cost of 3 first round picks minimum is really high. Also, he's not really plug n play. He's got a whole lot of issues that suggest either coaching issues with the Panthers (most likely) or work ethic with the player. He will need a year to learn the offense and get coached up. That said what's the difference between him and a rookie?He throws a lot of INTs which suggests he isn't reading well either through poor prep (his part) or coaching. A rookie like Leonard will cost 2 first round picks to get to about #10 where the Bears pick who don't need a QB. Leonard is projected to go in that range.The Rams have the perfect QBs to mentor a rookie in Stafford or Jimmy who would be the bridge. If he struggles badly in his second year then if they signed Jimmy to a 2 year deal they have a ready to play vet in house.If Jimmy wins a Lombardi and they want to ride him no problem because that rookie QB is on a rookie contract. The rookie can be trade bait if Jimmy works out. If Lawrence bombs you are out 3 picks with no QB.That is why I think if they are going to draft a QB then Jimmy on a 2-3 yr deal gives them security at the position that you don't get with Stafford who will cost them about $50M next year alone. One of the beat writers for the Rams suggested that some comments by Stafford after Sunday's game makes her believe he knows he's done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 8 posts Mar 12 2025
by rams74 13 hours 39 minutes ago Total posts: 1659 Joined: Nov 19 2015 Glendale, Arizona Pro Bowl QB POST #5 actionjack liked this post Youngblood22 wrote:No frickin way 3 first round picks. I can't even get my head to imagine thatHe does this on purpose, you know. 1 by Indrid Cold 13 hours 19 minutes ago Total posts: 953 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran QB POST #6 actionjack, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend".Lots and lots of words for total non-starter ideas. Of course, could get onboard with the Rams' plan and everyone else here...Rams are going for the SB with Stafford for the next 2 years and don't give a crap about who the next QB is. 2 by Elvis 13 hours 2 minutes ago Total posts: 40782 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator QB POST #7 actionjack liked this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17307&p=297330&hilit=lawrence#p297330Earlier on Lawrence:Dare wrote:I saw that stuff too and thought pretty much as you are. But the estimated cost of 3 first round picks minimum is really high. Also, he's not really plug n play. He's got a whole lot of issues that suggest either coaching issues with the Panthers (most likely) or work ethic with the player. He will need a year to learn the offense and get coached up. That said what's the difference between him and a rookie?He throws a lot of INTs which suggests he isn't reading well either through poor prep (his part) or coaching. A rookie like Leonard will cost 2 first round picks to get to about #10 where the Bears pick who don't need a QB. Leonard is projected to go in that range.The Rams have the perfect QBs to mentor a rookie in Stafford or Jimmy who would be the bridge. If he struggles badly in his second year then if they signed Jimmy to a 2 year deal they have a ready to play vet in house.If Jimmy wins a Lombardi and they want to ride him no problem because that rookie QB is on a rookie contract. The rookie can be trade bait if Jimmy works out. If Lawrence bombs you are out 3 picks with no QB.That is why I think if they are going to draft a QB then Jimmy on a 2-3 yr deal gives them security at the position that you don't get with Stafford who will cost them about $50M next year alone. One of the beat writers for the Rams suggested that some comments by Stafford after Sunday's game makes her believe he knows he's done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 8 posts Mar 12 2025
by Indrid Cold 13 hours 19 minutes ago Total posts: 953 Joined: Sep 24 2015 Redington Beach, FL Veteran QB POST #6 actionjack, PARAM liked this post PARAM wrote:And I've tried to find what can be learned from his novels but have come up empty......outside of "brevity is your best friend".Lots and lots of words for total non-starter ideas. Of course, could get onboard with the Rams' plan and everyone else here...Rams are going for the SB with Stafford for the next 2 years and don't give a crap about who the next QB is. 2 by Elvis 13 hours 2 minutes ago Total posts: 40782 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator QB POST #7 actionjack liked this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17307&p=297330&hilit=lawrence#p297330Earlier on Lawrence:Dare wrote:I saw that stuff too and thought pretty much as you are. But the estimated cost of 3 first round picks minimum is really high. Also, he's not really plug n play. He's got a whole lot of issues that suggest either coaching issues with the Panthers (most likely) or work ethic with the player. He will need a year to learn the offense and get coached up. That said what's the difference between him and a rookie?He throws a lot of INTs which suggests he isn't reading well either through poor prep (his part) or coaching. A rookie like Leonard will cost 2 first round picks to get to about #10 where the Bears pick who don't need a QB. Leonard is projected to go in that range.The Rams have the perfect QBs to mentor a rookie in Stafford or Jimmy who would be the bridge. If he struggles badly in his second year then if they signed Jimmy to a 2 year deal they have a ready to play vet in house.If Jimmy wins a Lombardi and they want to ride him no problem because that rookie QB is on a rookie contract. The rookie can be trade bait if Jimmy works out. If Lawrence bombs you are out 3 picks with no QB.That is why I think if they are going to draft a QB then Jimmy on a 2-3 yr deal gives them security at the position that you don't get with Stafford who will cost them about $50M next year alone. One of the beat writers for the Rams suggested that some comments by Stafford after Sunday's game makes her believe he knows he's done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 8 posts Mar 12 2025
by Elvis 13 hours 2 minutes ago Total posts: 40782 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator QB POST #7 actionjack liked this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17307&p=297330&hilit=lawrence#p297330Earlier on Lawrence:Dare wrote:I saw that stuff too and thought pretty much as you are. But the estimated cost of 3 first round picks minimum is really high. Also, he's not really plug n play. He's got a whole lot of issues that suggest either coaching issues with the Panthers (most likely) or work ethic with the player. He will need a year to learn the offense and get coached up. That said what's the difference between him and a rookie?He throws a lot of INTs which suggests he isn't reading well either through poor prep (his part) or coaching. A rookie like Leonard will cost 2 first round picks to get to about #10 where the Bears pick who don't need a QB. Leonard is projected to go in that range.The Rams have the perfect QBs to mentor a rookie in Stafford or Jimmy who would be the bridge. If he struggles badly in his second year then if they signed Jimmy to a 2 year deal they have a ready to play vet in house.If Jimmy wins a Lombardi and they want to ride him no problem because that rookie QB is on a rookie contract. The rookie can be trade bait if Jimmy works out. If Lawrence bombs you are out 3 picks with no QB.That is why I think if they are going to draft a QB then Jimmy on a 2-3 yr deal gives them security at the position that you don't get with Stafford who will cost them about $50M next year alone. One of the beat writers for the Rams suggested that some comments by Stafford after Sunday's game makes her believe he knows he's done. RFU Season Ticket Holder 1 by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 8 posts Mar 12 2025
by Flash 10 hours 37 minutes ago Total posts: 1246 Joined: Jan 13 2016 Houston Pro Bowl QB POST #8 Frequently wrong but never in doubt... RFU Season Ticket Holder Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business