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 by ramsww
2 weeks 5 days ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Stafford knew what he was doing when he dumped the pass to Puka at his feet. I was surprised to see others reactions to the call but Stafford was HAD, in the grasp, bent over with vision only of Puka’s shoe tops (his words). No way he could have flipped the ball up enough to get it to a receiver to complete a catch but that’s not the rule.

It should have been IG or an in the grasp sack and NO I would not want to see Staff take that calculated risk again regardless of the rules. The situ was compounded by the apparent call coming from NY not on the field but that was based on NO flag for IG which negated the obvious Vikings TD. It was the correct call and did not change the game. You can clearly see Stafford in full control of the ball flipping/throwing, it, whatever, FORWARD with a WR two feet away. He never fumbled.

 by snackdaddy
2 weeks 5 days ago
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United States of America   Merced California
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I think some people thought it was a fumble because of the way he threw it. But it doesn't matter how you throw it as long as its tossed forward. Underhand, flip it, around the back, hook shot, etc. It was a pass. I did think intentional grounding shoulda been called.

 by AvengerRam
2 weeks 5 days ago
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Israel   Lake Mary, Florida
Hall of Fame

Definitely not a fumble.

In the grasp... in real time, I'd say no (as much as it may look appropriate in slow motion).

Grounding - arguable, but not reviewable.

Incomplete pass - right call, in light of no flag thrown.

 by ramsww
2 weeks 5 days ago
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Add to this Bill Belichick’s obvious disdain for the Tuck Rule. LMFAO

Bill Belichick: It's an offensive league. What are you guys doin'? There's no rules to help the defense in the NFL. You can get away with that, and they call it an incomplete pass. It's an offensive league. You guys should coach defense in the NFL; you'd know what it's like."

 by max
2 weeks 5 days ago
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United States of America   Sarasota, FL
Hall of Fame

I thought it was surprising how strongly the Manning boys argued that it was a fumble. You can bet your lungs if they did what Stafford did they’d be screaming their brains out it was a pass.

I hate those jerks.

At least that sourpuss face Belicheat recognized that it was a pass.

 by actionjack
2 weeks 5 days ago
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United States of America   Sactown
Superstar

Kind of a weirdly ref'd game.

How was the Hummel called for 15 personal foul on roughing the punter when he clearly thrown into the punter???

Limmer cleans up tackler as Higs is still in the process of getting tackled. weird.

 by majik
2 weeks 5 days ago
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United States of America   New Jersey
Pro Bowl

All you need to avoid intentional grounding is to have a receiver in the area (which Puka was). It is not “could the pass have been legitimately completed”

 by Dare
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United States of America   Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego
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My take is that it really wouldn't have made a difference. That TD was negated when Verse scooped and scored as the Rams would have simply won by 11 points. Even KOC knew it was over by the 4th quarter and his team was being totally dominated.

 by Rams1PlateSince1976
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United States of America   LA Coliseum
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Worst case scenario would have been intentional grounding. But it was thrown in the direction of a Rams receiver. The ball hit the ground within several feet of Puka which is a hell of a lot closer than a lot of intentional throwaways are.

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