by ramsww 2 days 21 hours ago Total posts: 596 Joined: Aug 11 2022 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR I know this D is growing up fast and I know the Bills have a great OLine. I have to feel the plan was to contain Allen. He broke away 3-4 times and yes they were back breakers but our Offense knew they had to keep scoring. Had we gone for sacks all day, Allen might have killed us with his legs. If that wasn’t the plan I guess we are still a draft away on the DLine too. by PARAM 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #2 ramsww wrote:I know this D is growing up fast and I know the Bills have a great OLine. I have to feel the plan was to contain Allen. He broke away 3-4 times and yes they were back breakers but our Offense knew they had to keep scoring. Had we gone for sacks all day, Allen might have killed us with his legs. If that wasn’t the plan I guess we are still a draft away on the DLine too.The plan was 'see how we stacked up against one of the best teams in the NFL'. As McVay called it, 'a litmus test'. "Contain Allen"? Who was the last team to do that? The Bills have scored 30+ the last 7 games (232 points; 33 PPG) against some pretty good D's (#2 Tenn, #6 KC, #3 SF). I think the plan was, "score more points". We outplayed them in two of the three phases. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by ramsww 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 596 Joined: Aug 11 2022 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #3 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:The plan was 'see how we stacked up against one of the best teams in the NFL'. As McVay called it, 'a litmus test'. "Contain Allen"? Who was the last team to do that? The Bills have scored 30+ the last 7 games (232 points; 33 PPG) against some pretty good D's (#2 Tenn, #6 KC, #3 SF). I think the plan was, "score more points". We outplayed them in two of the three phases.I actually feel they did contain him per the back 8 talent we have. I’m being sincere saying, had we taken the other approach Allen may have had 150 yds rushing, 4 TDs and the W. I was stunned that Verse & Young never laid a glove on Allen that wasn’t accompanied by a flag and a 1st down.I can’t believe we aren’t better than that upfront. On the flip side, Stafford was sacked 7 times the last time we played the Bills. Kudos to our OLine and McVay for finding a way to win the best regular season game since the “Chefs” at Rams on MNF with Goff. Highest scoring NFL game this year knocking off the AFC champs on a 7 game winning streak! by ziggy 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 636 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #4 We did get the W. And we did in the only way we could against a team like the Bills. Some teams just have too many weapons... those team score consistently above 30, like the Bills. McVay did a good job (most of the time) to keep up and keep from the Rams from punting. He played a bit too conservative for a hot minute in the 4th and we almost lost our momentum and the game.However, I think there is something to edge contain that we are missing. Its possible that you can't both apply good pressure against a QB like Allen and also provide solid edge contain. We saw the impact of this problem against the Eagles, also.The big problem, however, is the secondary. Its not a fix, but maybe Forbes could spark something there. We haven't had too many picks... and that's because other teams seem to outrace our secondary. Forbes might be quick enough to get us some help in that department.We are definitely good enough to beat the remaining schedule. We just need to play to our potential. by snackdaddy 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 9860 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #5 Allen didn't run much the first half. Most his damage was the second half. Quarterbacks like him have more trust in their legs than their arms when the game is on the line. Funny thing though, the last few years most the Superbowl championship teams had quarterbacks who prefer to use their arms instead of their legs when the game is on the line. Foles, Brady, Stafford, Mahomes. Mahomes can run, and has, but he is one who would rather make plays throwing the ball than running with it. Guys like Allen, Jackson, Hurts will tuck it and run early in the play while the others will wait a little longer to make plays with their arms. by Elvis 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 40001 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #6 Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 8 hours 52 minutes ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #7 Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Dec 11 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by PARAM 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #2 ramsww wrote:I know this D is growing up fast and I know the Bills have a great OLine. I have to feel the plan was to contain Allen. He broke away 3-4 times and yes they were back breakers but our Offense knew they had to keep scoring. Had we gone for sacks all day, Allen might have killed us with his legs. If that wasn’t the plan I guess we are still a draft away on the DLine too.The plan was 'see how we stacked up against one of the best teams in the NFL'. As McVay called it, 'a litmus test'. "Contain Allen"? Who was the last team to do that? The Bills have scored 30+ the last 7 games (232 points; 33 PPG) against some pretty good D's (#2 Tenn, #6 KC, #3 SF). I think the plan was, "score more points". We outplayed them in two of the three phases. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by ramsww 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 596 Joined: Aug 11 2022 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #3 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:The plan was 'see how we stacked up against one of the best teams in the NFL'. As McVay called it, 'a litmus test'. "Contain Allen"? Who was the last team to do that? The Bills have scored 30+ the last 7 games (232 points; 33 PPG) against some pretty good D's (#2 Tenn, #6 KC, #3 SF). I think the plan was, "score more points". We outplayed them in two of the three phases.I actually feel they did contain him per the back 8 talent we have. I’m being sincere saying, had we taken the other approach Allen may have had 150 yds rushing, 4 TDs and the W. I was stunned that Verse & Young never laid a glove on Allen that wasn’t accompanied by a flag and a 1st down.I can’t believe we aren’t better than that upfront. On the flip side, Stafford was sacked 7 times the last time we played the Bills. Kudos to our OLine and McVay for finding a way to win the best regular season game since the “Chefs” at Rams on MNF with Goff. Highest scoring NFL game this year knocking off the AFC champs on a 7 game winning streak! by ziggy 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 636 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #4 We did get the W. And we did in the only way we could against a team like the Bills. Some teams just have too many weapons... those team score consistently above 30, like the Bills. McVay did a good job (most of the time) to keep up and keep from the Rams from punting. He played a bit too conservative for a hot minute in the 4th and we almost lost our momentum and the game.However, I think there is something to edge contain that we are missing. Its possible that you can't both apply good pressure against a QB like Allen and also provide solid edge contain. We saw the impact of this problem against the Eagles, also.The big problem, however, is the secondary. Its not a fix, but maybe Forbes could spark something there. We haven't had too many picks... and that's because other teams seem to outrace our secondary. Forbes might be quick enough to get us some help in that department.We are definitely good enough to beat the remaining schedule. We just need to play to our potential. by snackdaddy 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 9860 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #5 Allen didn't run much the first half. Most his damage was the second half. Quarterbacks like him have more trust in their legs than their arms when the game is on the line. Funny thing though, the last few years most the Superbowl championship teams had quarterbacks who prefer to use their arms instead of their legs when the game is on the line. Foles, Brady, Stafford, Mahomes. Mahomes can run, and has, but he is one who would rather make plays throwing the ball than running with it. Guys like Allen, Jackson, Hurts will tuck it and run early in the play while the others will wait a little longer to make plays with their arms. by Elvis 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 40001 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #6 Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 8 hours 52 minutes ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #7 Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Dec 11 2024
by ramsww 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 596 Joined: Aug 11 2022 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #3 TOPIC AUTHOR PARAM wrote:The plan was 'see how we stacked up against one of the best teams in the NFL'. As McVay called it, 'a litmus test'. "Contain Allen"? Who was the last team to do that? The Bills have scored 30+ the last 7 games (232 points; 33 PPG) against some pretty good D's (#2 Tenn, #6 KC, #3 SF). I think the plan was, "score more points". We outplayed them in two of the three phases.I actually feel they did contain him per the back 8 talent we have. I’m being sincere saying, had we taken the other approach Allen may have had 150 yds rushing, 4 TDs and the W. I was stunned that Verse & Young never laid a glove on Allen that wasn’t accompanied by a flag and a 1st down.I can’t believe we aren’t better than that upfront. On the flip side, Stafford was sacked 7 times the last time we played the Bills. Kudos to our OLine and McVay for finding a way to win the best regular season game since the “Chefs” at Rams on MNF with Goff. Highest scoring NFL game this year knocking off the AFC champs on a 7 game winning streak! by ziggy 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 636 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #4 We did get the W. And we did in the only way we could against a team like the Bills. Some teams just have too many weapons... those team score consistently above 30, like the Bills. McVay did a good job (most of the time) to keep up and keep from the Rams from punting. He played a bit too conservative for a hot minute in the 4th and we almost lost our momentum and the game.However, I think there is something to edge contain that we are missing. Its possible that you can't both apply good pressure against a QB like Allen and also provide solid edge contain. We saw the impact of this problem against the Eagles, also.The big problem, however, is the secondary. Its not a fix, but maybe Forbes could spark something there. We haven't had too many picks... and that's because other teams seem to outrace our secondary. Forbes might be quick enough to get us some help in that department.We are definitely good enough to beat the remaining schedule. We just need to play to our potential. by snackdaddy 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 9860 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #5 Allen didn't run much the first half. Most his damage was the second half. Quarterbacks like him have more trust in their legs than their arms when the game is on the line. Funny thing though, the last few years most the Superbowl championship teams had quarterbacks who prefer to use their arms instead of their legs when the game is on the line. Foles, Brady, Stafford, Mahomes. Mahomes can run, and has, but he is one who would rather make plays throwing the ball than running with it. Guys like Allen, Jackson, Hurts will tuck it and run early in the play while the others will wait a little longer to make plays with their arms. by Elvis 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 40001 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #6 Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 8 hours 52 minutes ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #7 Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Dec 11 2024
by ziggy 2 days 8 hours ago Total posts: 636 Joined: Apr 24 2018 LA Coliseum Veteran Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #4 We did get the W. And we did in the only way we could against a team like the Bills. Some teams just have too many weapons... those team score consistently above 30, like the Bills. McVay did a good job (most of the time) to keep up and keep from the Rams from punting. He played a bit too conservative for a hot minute in the 4th and we almost lost our momentum and the game.However, I think there is something to edge contain that we are missing. Its possible that you can't both apply good pressure against a QB like Allen and also provide solid edge contain. We saw the impact of this problem against the Eagles, also.The big problem, however, is the secondary. Its not a fix, but maybe Forbes could spark something there. We haven't had too many picks... and that's because other teams seem to outrace our secondary. Forbes might be quick enough to get us some help in that department.We are definitely good enough to beat the remaining schedule. We just need to play to our potential. by snackdaddy 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 9860 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #5 Allen didn't run much the first half. Most his damage was the second half. Quarterbacks like him have more trust in their legs than their arms when the game is on the line. Funny thing though, the last few years most the Superbowl championship teams had quarterbacks who prefer to use their arms instead of their legs when the game is on the line. Foles, Brady, Stafford, Mahomes. Mahomes can run, and has, but he is one who would rather make plays throwing the ball than running with it. Guys like Allen, Jackson, Hurts will tuck it and run early in the play while the others will wait a little longer to make plays with their arms. by Elvis 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 40001 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #6 Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 8 hours 52 minutes ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #7 Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Dec 11 2024
by snackdaddy 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 9860 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #5 Allen didn't run much the first half. Most his damage was the second half. Quarterbacks like him have more trust in their legs than their arms when the game is on the line. Funny thing though, the last few years most the Superbowl championship teams had quarterbacks who prefer to use their arms instead of their legs when the game is on the line. Foles, Brady, Stafford, Mahomes. Mahomes can run, and has, but he is one who would rather make plays throwing the ball than running with it. Guys like Allen, Jackson, Hurts will tuck it and run early in the play while the others will wait a little longer to make plays with their arms. by Elvis 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 40001 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #6 Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 8 hours 52 minutes ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #7 Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Dec 11 2024
by Elvis 2 days 5 hours ago Total posts: 40001 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #6 Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... RFU Season Ticket Holder by PARAM 8 hours 52 minutes ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #7 Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Dec 11 2024
by PARAM 8 hours 52 minutes ago Total posts: 12620 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame Allen-Contain, Contain, Contain POST #7 Elvis wrote:Allen is pretty amazing, really good with both his legs and his arm, not a 1 trick pony at all, IMO... Yeah, I don't see how you "contain" Allen. Although, back in weeks 4 and 5, Baltimore and Houston did just that. Baltimore sacked him 3 times in a 35-10 win and Houston held him to 9 of 30 passing (that's not a typo...9 of 30) with a sack in a 23-20 win kicking a FG as time expired. But look at that last one....9 of 30 and Houston only won by 3 on a last second FG. Contain him? Pretty hard to do. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business