[69RamFan]

Even the smoke, bubble, and slip screens have barely been called. He called ONE slip screen today. Result. Puka Nacua TD.

Zero RB middle or RB bubble screens. Rams ran 2 jet sweeps. One was successful (Nacua) one was not Tutu). M
I dont think Staff can check into a screen call. But he can check out of one. I could be wrong of course.

The RAMs always go to the scrimmage line with at least two plays at min,

Just depending in how the defense looks.

Why wouldn't Stafford check into a screen call,
as I stated, it all depends on what the defense is showing.

If they show a blitz, and loaded to one side,
and the original play was a run play,
They can always change into a screen,
if McVay called for those two plays,
from what type of defense is out on the field.
I'm sure the RAMs have at least 10 plays that Stafford can change on the line of scrimmage,
just depends on what the defense is show, example, cover zero,
it's a no brainer between Stafford & Kupp, that see it and go right up the middle with it.

People asked why the RAMs don't do more of certain plays compared to other teams,
have you ever thought that maybe those QBs don't have a quality arm as Stafford?
I've seen in this game, where William ran up the middle or the outlet and was open,
But with Stafford strong and accurate arm,
he is looking down field and can hit those tight windows,
as long as he feels protected with his OL.

This was the first time our OL was playing with the expecting starting unit,
from the beginning of the season except for our center.
But they still have to still jell together, it was just one game,
and they looked ok but still gave up 2/sacks and 6/QB hits.
But was great in the run game opening up holes for our RBs.

[Dare]

I have no problem with no RB screens. As pointed out McVay uses WR screens with Cooper and Puka. I think he uses Puka more because he's built like a TE, i.e. he can take the hits and power through them better than Kupp.

The way Williams fumbles, I'd say it's another reason to say NFW.

Also, I agree that this OL is built to be a road grading run blocking machine. It's also why they rarely run their outside zone run plays. This OL is built to pass block and run inside zone/gap concepts.

Jet sweeps with Atwell have replaced the outside zone and RB screens. Williams isn't nearly as fast as Akers and Henderson both timed in the 4.4 range while Williams times in the 4.6 range. Corum runs in the 4.5 range. Speed is a component of running outside zone and yes RB screens. So I think a case can be made that McVay is playing to his player's strengths.

Setting up a WR screen is much faster, not allowing the LBs to get involved, generally speaking. The Rams WRs blocking smaller, lighter DBs is a much better matchup. With a WR screen, Stafford just turns and throws outflanking the front seven.

Most teams don't use WR screens because they don't have the blocking WRs that the Rams do. Watching Nacua carry the ball, he runs like a big fast RB so why use smaller slower Williams?

[ramsww]

Because in McVay's 11 PS,
He has the best trio WR in the league,
then we can include our TEs.
if you look at those stats,
It's not like he is not using it,
It's mostly used for, if everyone is covered,
then we go to our last option in the flat outlet.
plus, our RB help's out to protect from blitzing.

Plus, we upgraded into a power OL instead of a zone OL,
So, with that type of OL, we have more protection to look downfield.

I have no qualms being last in the league for not passing it to our RBs.

In my opinion that’s the issue not the answer. Using the check down instead of a well drawn up featured play. We always seem 5-10 yards away when opponents catch a check down with a LB right on top of Willams at the catch. I have no problem with McVay’s use of 11-man. It’s been creative lately and working, at least late in games. He can’t swing out the back as he’s always needed to block. OLine can’t protect for more than 2.5 seconds. IMO, that’s the real problem.

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OLine can’t protect for more than 2.5 seconds. IMO, that’s the real problem.

Isn's this the chicken and egg? While I agree the OL is not elite or even consistent, with quick screens and dump off-- you relieve the OL pressure because the D can't fully engage to enable fast release and cover.

BTW, this is exactly what the Eagles did to the Rams. Verse was always .5 a second from a sack and Saquon would get sprung for yards and yards.

I agree with what others have said about WR screens replacing RB screens and I think McVay has said as much. However, I still think there's value in SOME creativity to keep D off balance. The slow starts are because the scripted 1st, 2nd and 3rd series have no creativity and I think McVay does it to evaluate the D for future plays. However, its putting the sluggish Rams behind and then our 'creative' plays never get a chance because now we are playing down 7 or 10 points.

[ramsman34]

The point is the swing, wheel, check down, RB screen is to not only have an answer for pressure on that play, but to slow down the rush in general. If teams just rush up field, the RB screen designed to hit behind that rush into the vacated area btx the rush and the second level. Out D has been eaten up by screens. I can’t understand not using them to set the pash rush up for gains in screen then to take advantage of rush hesitation to hit bigger plays downfield - all out of the same pre-snap look. That is MCVs forte after all - making plays look the same. That can apply to the RB screen game. And frankly, K Will is excellent at breaking tackles and making guys miss. Better than anyone except maybe Puka.

And we have athletic enough OL to run these types of screens too.

MCV was asked about it and he did make a god point; the uptick in calls for ineligible player downfield. If THAT is the reason for shying away from certain types of screens, then it makes a lot of sense.

[actionjack]

The point is the swing, wheel, check down, RB screen is to not only have an answer for pressure on that play, but to slow down the rush in general. If teams just rush up field, the RB screen designed to hit behind that rush into the vacated area btx the rush and the second level. Out D has been eaten up by screens. I can’t understand not using them to set the pash rush up for gains in screen then to take advantage of rush hesitation to hit bigger plays downfield - all out of the same pre-snap look. That is MCVs forte after all - making plays look the same. That can apply to the RB screen game. And frankly, K Will is excellent at breaking tackles and making guys miss. Better than anyone except maybe Puka.

And we have athletic enough OL to run these types of screens too.

MCV was asked about it and he did make a god point; the uptick in calls for ineligible player downfield. If THAT is the reason for shying away from certain types of screens, then it makes a lot of sense.

Yep I heard that too from the pressor, makes sense. I also though they used it more against NO and defended it better.

Now how we going to stop Josh lol.

[ramsman34]

For Josh, pressure with 4, rush lane integrity, if you get hands in him, gotta get him down, gonna have to spy him with someone if you play any man coverage concepts - could be a delayed spy/blitz.

[ramsman34]

And the O has to score 30+.

[Dare]

I like the Ram's chances to sneak out a win against Buffalo. Like I've posted, the Buffs have a tendency to play down to teams they assume they will dominate. Funny how the defense isn't the major worry these days. Yeah they need to improve their secondary but that's a question for next year.

The Ram offense needs to pick up their pace and simply score in all 4 quarters. McVay's playcalling has become repetitive and at times predictable. If he's got anymore rabbits in his hat he needs to pull them out early in this game. The Bovines have a decent RB but he's no Barkley. That said they have an outstanding OL. I think we will see a lot of 5 man rushes on obvious passing downs.

Other than Cooper the other Bovine WRs look good but hardly great. This team can be beaten if you keep the score close. The Rams have their starting OL back, their RBs are healthy as are their WRs. There is no reason this offense can roll early and sustain that all game long.

MOST OF ALL, McVAY MUST NOT CHASE POINTS!!! HE NEEDS TO TAKE POINTS THAT ARE THERE AND LET THE GAME COME TO HIM. THE RAMS ARE BETTER WHEN THEY PLAY THAT WAY.

Karty needs to get his head out of his ass and be the PK they drafted.