[actionjack]

There are 17 RBs with more career yards than SJ and 14 are in the HOF. The 3 who aren't?

Frank Gore 16,000 yards in 16 years; 1,000 yards/yr (eligible in 2025)
Adrian Peterson 14,918 in 15 years; 995 yards/yr (eligible in 2026)
Fred Taylor 11,695 in 13 years; 900 yards/yr (retired in 2010; eligible the last 9 years)
SJ................11,438 in 12 years; 952 yards/yr

NFL players sometimes hang too long. Peterson was a stud with Minnesota (95 yards per game/ 1174 yards per year). But he was a hanger-on. 40 games, 41 yards per game over a 5 year period. Gore was a stud with SF (74.8 yds/g...1107 yards/yr). He wasn't as good with Indy for 3 years but still decent (64.5 yds/g; 984 yds/yr). But with Buffalo, the Jets and Miami he played 45 games, averaged 43.8 yds/g. Another hanger-on.

Taylor and SJ spent the least amount of time being a hanger-on (Taylor 2 years in New England; 13 games, 32.5 yds/g. SJ 2 yrs in Atlanta; 27 games, 46 yds/g, then 2 games with New England 25 ypg). In my book that counts for something. He wasn't padding his numbers for 3 years like Gore or 5 years like AP. But only the voters know. SJ averaged 1126 yards per year with the Rams, an absolutely shitty team his entire time there. He was the offense.

As they said on the McVay show, Kupp is now #3 all time for the Rams having passed Hirsch. McVay asked how far away from Ike and Torry he was and they told him "a long way. Which indicates Holt should be in the HOF". Kupp is 19 away from Torry, 29 away from Ike.

All 4 of those RB should be in the hall...

[ramsrams]

The fan in me doesn’t allow me to make an unbiased post on this subject.

Holt has been a victim of playing in an era when there were so many great WR’s. Most of those guys were the focus of their team’s attacks. Holt wasn’t as he played with so many other great players, some in the HOF. His gross numbers are therefore not what they might have been in a different situation. To me, that is unfair to hold that against him.

Jackson ran behind some of the worst OL’s I have ever seen. That is not an excuse, it is a fact. Hard to put up numbers when there are two guys in your face as soon as you are given the ball. I have read so many comments from people who know the game far better than I do that he is a HOF talent.

Here’s hoping.

[rams74]

Holt has been a victim of playing in an era when there were so many great WR’s. Most of those guys were the focus of their team’s attacks. Holt wasn’t as he played with so many other great players, some in the HOF. His gross numbers are therefore not what they might have been in a different situation. To me, that is unfair to hold that against him.

Sure. It's certainly true that Holt was a victim of circumstance. At the same time, though, Holt played on teams that had success, and still put up really good numbers.

You can certainly make a case that the success he had was in part due to playing with HOF players like Warner, Pace, Faulk, and Bruce. Bruce and Holt had to split targets, but they both made each other better (and there were a LOT of targets in that offense).

In my mind, one of the biggest victims of circumstance was Henry Ellard. As talented as they come, but lived in the NFC West shadow of Jerry Rice (and John Taylor), constantly blocked from the ultimate team success by those Niners.

[69RamFan]

Its a freaking joke that Hester is in at all let along ahead of Big Game

As I stated, Both Hester and Johnson,
I feel Holt should of went before the both of them.
Holt had better number on the average per game vs Johnson with less targets and years.
Plus, Holt had to play with other great skill players who had to get their targets too.
Whereas Johnson was the main target getting the most targets.
And Holt had for eight straight years of getting over 1000yds per year.
Plus, he got snub in 2002 for not making the Pro Bowl, its should be 8 instead of 7,
in which he had better numbers than the guy from Chicago, Marty Booker making the PB.

And as for Hester, he was just a ST player,
yes, he had major yard numbers for PR/KR during his time in the league.
But to account for TDs, Holt had a total of 74/TD,
While Hester only getting 16/rec, 1/run, 19/PR & KR for a total of 36/TD

While Holt has been to two SB and winning one,
while contributing during the SB playoff year.

If Holt doesn't make it this year,
then I feel the sports writers are just jealous of the RAMs organization.

[Zen_Ronin]

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3 WRs in the final 15? What's the odds two of the three get in this year?

[UtahRam]

I wish people were as passionate about our uniform/helmet debacle as much as they are about Holt getting into the HOF year after year...lol

[Elvis]

[69RamFan]

3 WRs in the final 15? What's the odds two of the three get in this year?

This should be Holt's time into the top five:

Holt fell into the top 10 the last two years.

Wayne fell out of the top 10 last year giving him only 1 top 10 the past two years.

Smith Jr, this is his first top 15

My guess who will definitely get in this year from the previous top 10

Torry Holt
Jared Allen
Both have been in the top 10 the past two seasons.

That leaves three others that made the top 10 from last season for the first time.
Gates
Anderson
Woodson

Wayne the year before.

Then you have five first year eligible players in the top 15,
to fight for that final three.
Mannion
Kuechly
Vinatieri
Yanda
Suggs

With others in the top 15
Evans
Taylor
Eric Allen
Steve Smith

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Let's hope so!