by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR https://www.therams.com/news/rams-agree ... -back-2024Good to have him back. Makes the deep patrol even better and, err, deeper. by /zn/ 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 6939 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #2 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 04 2024, edited 2 times in total. ramsman34 liked this post ramsman34 wrote:https://www.therams.com/news/rams-agree ... -back-2024Good to have him back. Makes the deep patrol even better and, err, deeper.Part of this year's formula. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league...though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson. Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse. Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front. Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff. 1 by snackdaddy 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10046 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #3 ramsman34 liked this post Good move. The secondary as a whole had too many blown coverages that led to wide open receivers and easy touchdowns or big plays. More experience can reduce that. 1 by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR /zn/ wrote:Part of this year's formula. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league...though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson. Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse. Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front. Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff.The ability to disguise coverages behind a multiple look front should definitely not be overlooked. It may take some time but, this defense could be outstanding. Can they stop the run?? That is the big question for me. by Dare 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #5 This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year. by Rams1PlateSince1976 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 2194 Joined: Oct 12 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #6 actionjack, FMulder liked this post Jerry Gray, Gary Green, Johnny Johnson the 1st and Nolan Cromwell was a fantastic secondary 2 by actionjack 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 5180 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #7 Dare wrote:This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year.Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play. Ramsey didnt want out, in fact quite the opposite. The Rams just didnt want to pay him. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. 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by /zn/ 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 6939 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #2 Last edited by /zn/ on Jul 04 2024, edited 2 times in total. ramsman34 liked this post ramsman34 wrote:https://www.therams.com/news/rams-agree ... -back-2024Good to have him back. Makes the deep patrol even better and, err, deeper.Part of this year's formula. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league...though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson. Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse. Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front. Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff. 1 by snackdaddy 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10046 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #3 ramsman34 liked this post Good move. The secondary as a whole had too many blown coverages that led to wide open receivers and easy touchdowns or big plays. More experience can reduce that. 1 by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR /zn/ wrote:Part of this year's formula. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league...though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson. Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse. Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front. Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff.The ability to disguise coverages behind a multiple look front should definitely not be overlooked. It may take some time but, this defense could be outstanding. Can they stop the run?? That is the big question for me. by Dare 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #5 This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year. by Rams1PlateSince1976 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 2194 Joined: Oct 12 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #6 actionjack, FMulder liked this post Jerry Gray, Gary Green, Johnny Johnson the 1st and Nolan Cromwell was a fantastic secondary 2 by actionjack 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 5180 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #7 Dare wrote:This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year.Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play. Ramsey didnt want out, in fact quite the opposite. The Rams just didnt want to pay him. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. 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by snackdaddy 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10046 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #3 ramsman34 liked this post Good move. The secondary as a whole had too many blown coverages that led to wide open receivers and easy touchdowns or big plays. More experience can reduce that. 1 by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR /zn/ wrote:Part of this year's formula. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league...though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson. Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse. Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front. Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff.The ability to disguise coverages behind a multiple look front should definitely not be overlooked. It may take some time but, this defense could be outstanding. Can they stop the run?? That is the big question for me. by Dare 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #5 This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year. by Rams1PlateSince1976 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 2194 Joined: Oct 12 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #6 actionjack, FMulder liked this post Jerry Gray, Gary Green, Johnny Johnson the 1st and Nolan Cromwell was a fantastic secondary 2 by actionjack 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 5180 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #7 Dare wrote:This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year.Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play. Ramsey didnt want out, in fact quite the opposite. The Rams just didnt want to pay him. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. 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by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #4 TOPIC AUTHOR /zn/ wrote:Part of this year's formula. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league...though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson. Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse. Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front. Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff.The ability to disguise coverages behind a multiple look front should definitely not be overlooked. It may take some time but, this defense could be outstanding. Can they stop the run?? That is the big question for me. by Dare 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #5 This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year. by Rams1PlateSince1976 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 2194 Joined: Oct 12 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #6 actionjack, FMulder liked this post Jerry Gray, Gary Green, Johnny Johnson the 1st and Nolan Cromwell was a fantastic secondary 2 by actionjack 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 5180 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #7 Dare wrote:This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year.Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play. Ramsey didnt want out, in fact quite the opposite. The Rams just didnt want to pay him. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. 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by Dare 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #5 This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year. by Rams1PlateSince1976 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 2194 Joined: Oct 12 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #6 actionjack, FMulder liked this post Jerry Gray, Gary Green, Johnny Johnson the 1st and Nolan Cromwell was a fantastic secondary 2 by actionjack 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 5180 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #7 Dare wrote:This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year.Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play. Ramsey didnt want out, in fact quite the opposite. The Rams just didnt want to pay him. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. 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by Rams1PlateSince1976 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 2194 Joined: Oct 12 2016 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #6 actionjack, FMulder liked this post Jerry Gray, Gary Green, Johnny Johnson the 1st and Nolan Cromwell was a fantastic secondary 2 by actionjack 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 5180 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #7 Dare wrote:This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year.Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play. Ramsey didnt want out, in fact quite the opposite. The Rams just didnt want to pay him. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 03 2025
by actionjack 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 5180 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #7 Dare wrote:This is an indication of that they were not comfortable with their SCB option if they moved Lake to safety. Now they can play him at SCB with Curl and JJ behind him. It also provides the Rams with injury insurance behind Curl if that is a concern. Boundary CBS: White & WilliamsSCB: LakeSafeties: Curl & JohnsonThat is a very good secondary allowing Shula to play aggressively. People make a lot about the blown coverages last year. But it's not only who Morris played (slow Kendricks) but his penchant to play exceedingly soft coverages. Morris believed in playing his defense waiting for the offense to make a mistake instead of forcing those mistakes with pressure. Ramsey wanted out because he got tired of playing those soft coverages. Shula now has the front 6 to play aggressively and the 5 secondary to match that style. With this secondary QBs need to be spot on with their passes or risk incompletions or turnovers. This will be a totally different defense the NFL will face this year. QBs will face quick pressure and tighter coverages this year. With the LBs that Shula will have I think running against this front will be more difficult. They have the personnel to be a top 10 defensive unit this year. With their offense playing behind an outstanding OL this indeed is a Super Bowl contending team this year.Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play. Ramsey didnt want out, in fact quite the opposite. The Rams just didnt want to pay him. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 03 2025
by ramsman34 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 10040 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #8 TOPIC AUTHOR I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks with one (I too say Lake) in the Star role. We will see how it all shakes out in camp but this secondary looks to have a lot of position flexibility. by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 03 2025
by BobCarl 11 months 4 weeks ago Total posts: 4645 Joined: Mar 08 2017 LA Coliseum Superstar Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #9 ramsman34 wrote:I think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks.I was hoping to see a good amount of cover_zero and blitz the house ne supra crepidam sutor iudicaret by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 27 posts Jul 03 2025
by Dare 11 months 3 weeks ago Total posts: 780 Joined: Mar 09 2024 Tucson, AZ formerly of San Diego Veteran Rams bring Back John Johnson III POST #10 Actionjack: Rams will still play shell coverage that is the tenant of the Fangio system, dont give up the big play.I beg to differ. When healthy White is one of the best man coverage CBs in the NFL. Williams also plays best in a man coverage scheme. Durant is also best in a man coverage scheme. This is why I think Shula will probably play zone match or man coverages quite a bit. It doesn't preclude the safeties from playing a shell. Also, I find it interesting they re-signed Johnson who played safety for Phillips and Staley. The other thing people overlook is that coming out of college White was one of the best SCBs in his draft. So if Durant emerges in TC they could move White to SCB and Lake back to safety. The way the Rams gave Morris the "bum rush" out the door all but pleading with teams to hire him as a HC would tend to make me think they want a defensive change not more of the same. Why stay with schemes that had the defense playing in the bottom half of the NFL? Playing man and zone match coverages they were ranked consistently in the top half of the NFL. Yeah it's great they will get a 3rd round pick for Morris, but if they really wanted him to stay they wouldn't have gone out of their way to get him hired away. IMO had no one hired Morris he would have been "promoted to Consultant".Granted I'm just reading tea leaves but IMO they say a schematic defensive change is coming. Reply 1 / 3 1 3 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business