[ramsman34]

Rapp is a FA. They aren’t re signing him. Jalen is a Corner. He would be wasted at safety. He was on Davante all night. And shut him down for the most part. And I don’t think he has lost any speed. All JMO. Fuller and Scott starters plus Lake and Yeast are there to develop. Rams will add 2 more in the off season. And if they can get a better starter than who they have, they probably will. There will be corners gone so Rams will have to get 2-3 there as well. I think Long and Hill are FA, top 4 remaining; Ramsey, Durant, Kendrick, Rochelle. Then some developmental guys.

[LWM]

He is a hater

[LWM]

Morris or Ramsey

[69RamFan]

Uhh sans for 2 plays, and he had really good coverage on the first one, he was a stud last night. He was in man coverage on DA almost all night. That said, would depend on the return in a trade and as I Cold stated, the cap hits are significant. I see a restructure before a trade. But ya never know. MCV says he loves the guy. Not sure if that factors. It’s business.

Just to add, RAMsey shut him down in the second half,

All of DA production was in the first half.

[/zn/]

I don't know if it's a good time to be judging any Rams players. A lot of them seemed to have "relaxed" this off-season--super bowl hangover?--and did not come back with the same preparation or energy. Ramsey and Floyd are 2 examples of that (and with Donald out that makes Wagner the star of the defense now).

There's also the "trade em" double standards that show up in conversations like this. So people say, trade Ramsey because he has declined and you can get a high pick for him. Well if you can get a high pick then teams trading for him will see he hasn't declined as much as the critics are saying. Or if he has declined then there won't be a high pick--teams watch film, they don't trade for a guy based on reputation alone.

Besides the OL, the only areas I am concerned about are edge rusher and CB (though it is also possible that a guy like Durant can take the next step next year).

Either way, next year is not a rebuild year. Assuming Stafford is back, they can build an OL with all the extra players they were forced to use this year, some of whom can play (like Jackson?) They will have all these recovering, but also experienced, injured players, along with injury replacements, to make for a pretty deep OL situation in camp in 2023. I'm sure they'll also draft a guy or 2.

That again makes the real issues revolve around the pass rush and the CB situation.

Doesn;'t sound like a rebuild to me. Not the time to dump stars, get picks, and start over.

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[max]

So we've got a ton of low talent OL who have gained experience because of the devastating injuries. And now we can bring them all back next year and pick the best ones among them. Yeah, now thats what I call a great plan for total mediocrity.

It's like having a barrel full of rotten apples, and picking out the 5 least rotten ones and handing them to the teacher.

This stupid shit has got to stop. They have got to add some legit talent to the OL and stop using 2nd round picks on RBs and gadget players.

[bremillard]

So we've got a ton of low talent OL who have gained experience because of the devastating injuries. And now we can bring them all back next year and pick the best ones among them. Yeah, now thats what I call a great plan for total mediocrity.

It's like having a barrel full of rotten apples, and picking out the 5 least rotten ones and handing them to the teacher.

This stupid shit has got to stop. They have got to add some legit talent to the OL and stop using 2nd round picks on RBs and gadget players.

I'm sorry to say that the team, until now at least, seems to view the offensive line as a necessary evil rather than a necessary component to a successful team. Depth matters here. Hope that changes if it's the case.

[Elvis]

Broken record here again but this has been the Rams approach to Oline since McVay got here. You can go back and see posters like max were critical the Rams drafted Everett and Kupp instead of Oline in that first McVay draft.

The Rams method undeniably works: 5 straight winning seasons, 4 playoff appearances, two SBs, one Lombardi.

One injury plagued crap season and those same critics want to claim they were right all along.

That argument is never going to wash with me...

[69RamFan]

Broken record here again but this has been the Rams approach to Oline since McVay got here. You can go back and see posters like max were critical the Rams drafted Everett and Kupp instead of Oline in that first McVay draft.

The Rams method undeniably works: 5 straight winning seasons, 4 playoff appearances, two SBs, one Lombardi.

One injury plagued crap season and those same critics want to claim they were right all along.

That argument is never going to wash with me...

Yes the Rams have been bringing in lower round senior bowl OL since Snead/McVay era,

and trying to develop them into a starting position.

But we have to remember, we had Rhav,

& Saffold in which they both were pretty decent, prior to McVay taking over.

Then we brought in FA Whit and Sully.

Whit is a future HOF.

This is what we need, a Powerhouse LT and a Powerhouse LG vet,

If we can get those two,

then we can use the other two positions C/G by the RAMs development program.

In which that should balance out compared to what we had in 17 & 18.

Noteboom is not the answer at LT.

If they can possibly get a powerhouse LT,

Then do a trade, either a 6th or 7th rd pick and Noteboom to take him off our books,

that would be the best option. IMO

[max]

Yes the Rams have been bringing in lower round senior bowl OL since Snead/McVay era,

and trying to develop them into a starting position.

But we have to remember, we had Rhav,

& Safford in which they both were pretty decent, prior to McVay taking over.

Then we brought in FA Whit and Sully.

Whit is a future HOF.

This is what we need, a Powerhouse LT and a Powerhouse LG vet,

If we can get those two,

then we can use the other two positions C/G by the RAMs development program.

In which that should balance out compared to what we had in 17 & 18.

Noteboom is not the answer at LT.

If they can possibly get a powerhouse LT,

Then do a trade, either a 6th or 7th rd pick and Noteboom to take him off our books,

that would be the best option. IMO

Yes. This is exactly the point many miss when they harp on the McVay did it without drafting OL high.

Simply put McVay had Whitworth, a HOF LT for all 5 of his years of winning records. Is anyone that obtuse to think we would have had the same success without him? If so, you don’t understand the rudiments of NFL football.