by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #41 Dick84 wrote:I don’t see them drafting a corner high. They’ve got 5 who were on the roster last year under contract. I just don’t see it. Agree with the trade down.I could see them taking a S who can also play slot. Not with the first two picks but in the 3rd or 4th. I hope so. Somebody like Julian Blackmon (Utah) who can play multiple positions. That's one of the reasons I like Antonio Gibson (Memphis). I'd like to see them grab him at some point. A RB and WR. Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by pmill66 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 152 Joined: Jan 14 2017 LA Coliseum Rookie DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #42 actionjack liked this post PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".Ramsey and Hill are upcoming free agents, CB is very expensive. Believe Ramsey will resign, Hill will leave. Would like to see the Rams add an outside CB to start next year, contribute this year. 1 by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #43 Neil039 liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:Good logical Rams 2020 Draft scenario by pmill66 IMHO. I too think they will stand pat at #52 and see what BPA stud falls to them.Finally......the OL Ram picks should be Interior OL......where we are weakest right now. Additionally, as Pennsylvania says....."we're up to our butt-holes in OT Yutes".....or words to that effect. Happy Easter to all!!One thing about the draft is "fit" also comes into it. BPA, need, fit. I brought up the OC from Temple because he's rated high. He's talented. And he should be available at #57 or lower. But I don't know about "fit" with him. Happy Easter to you too! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #44 PARAM, actionjack liked this post Rams brass don't check with me on who they should pick. But if they did, I would tell them to grab the best edge rusher available. Maybe even trade up a few spots if one they covet starts to drop to them at 52. Just to be sure they get him. I'd hate to see them waste Donald's best years by not providing some edge help to ease the double/triple teams he will face. I've been wrong enough to say I could be way off base. But the investments they made, Hav's extension and drafting Noteboom, Evans and Edwards, leads me to believe they will try and get these guys developed. Which is why I don't think they will draft offensive line help with the first two picks. Maybe none on day 2. They could pick a developmental guy later. Drafting more linemen early would mean they got it wrong with the previous picks there. I think its a little too soon to think they got it wrong. For all we know, these guys could turn out to be decent to good linemen with more experience. They gotta see it through instead of cutting bait. 2 by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #45 PARAM liked this post Dick84 wrote:The exception, I think, or exceptions.. is if a highly valued LT or Center fell to you, like a Center you think would automatically move Blythe out of the starting lineup as a rookie and an LT that you're sure could start next year, you do it. Sure, I believe in Noteboom.. but I'd still jump at a prime candidate, if available.Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team. 1 by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #46 snackdaddy wrote:Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team.Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #47 safer wrote:I know a lot of you are pushing for an edge rusher......but in my eyes, we already are paying Floyd $10 mil to do just that. With youngsters Samson, Obo and Polite out there who are earning more time, I think we are pretty flush at that position right now, as opposed to Mlber; Oline and wide out.Rushers usually take 2-3 years to develop (unless your name is Bosa) and we now have three talented guys who aren't yet fully there.None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. 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by pmill66 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 152 Joined: Jan 14 2017 LA Coliseum Rookie DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #42 actionjack liked this post PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".Ramsey and Hill are upcoming free agents, CB is very expensive. Believe Ramsey will resign, Hill will leave. Would like to see the Rams add an outside CB to start next year, contribute this year. 1 by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #43 Neil039 liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:Good logical Rams 2020 Draft scenario by pmill66 IMHO. I too think they will stand pat at #52 and see what BPA stud falls to them.Finally......the OL Ram picks should be Interior OL......where we are weakest right now. Additionally, as Pennsylvania says....."we're up to our butt-holes in OT Yutes".....or words to that effect. Happy Easter to all!!One thing about the draft is "fit" also comes into it. BPA, need, fit. I brought up the OC from Temple because he's rated high. He's talented. And he should be available at #57 or lower. But I don't know about "fit" with him. Happy Easter to you too! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #44 PARAM, actionjack liked this post Rams brass don't check with me on who they should pick. But if they did, I would tell them to grab the best edge rusher available. Maybe even trade up a few spots if one they covet starts to drop to them at 52. Just to be sure they get him. I'd hate to see them waste Donald's best years by not providing some edge help to ease the double/triple teams he will face. I've been wrong enough to say I could be way off base. But the investments they made, Hav's extension and drafting Noteboom, Evans and Edwards, leads me to believe they will try and get these guys developed. Which is why I don't think they will draft offensive line help with the first two picks. Maybe none on day 2. They could pick a developmental guy later. Drafting more linemen early would mean they got it wrong with the previous picks there. I think its a little too soon to think they got it wrong. For all we know, these guys could turn out to be decent to good linemen with more experience. They gotta see it through instead of cutting bait. 2 by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #45 PARAM liked this post Dick84 wrote:The exception, I think, or exceptions.. is if a highly valued LT or Center fell to you, like a Center you think would automatically move Blythe out of the starting lineup as a rookie and an LT that you're sure could start next year, you do it. Sure, I believe in Noteboom.. but I'd still jump at a prime candidate, if available.Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team. 1 by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #46 snackdaddy wrote:Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team.Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #47 safer wrote:I know a lot of you are pushing for an edge rusher......but in my eyes, we already are paying Floyd $10 mil to do just that. With youngsters Samson, Obo and Polite out there who are earning more time, I think we are pretty flush at that position right now, as opposed to Mlber; Oline and wide out.Rushers usually take 2-3 years to develop (unless your name is Bosa) and we now have three talented guys who aren't yet fully there.None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. 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by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #43 Neil039 liked this post CanuckRightWinger wrote:Good logical Rams 2020 Draft scenario by pmill66 IMHO. I too think they will stand pat at #52 and see what BPA stud falls to them.Finally......the OL Ram picks should be Interior OL......where we are weakest right now. Additionally, as Pennsylvania says....."we're up to our butt-holes in OT Yutes".....or words to that effect. Happy Easter to all!!One thing about the draft is "fit" also comes into it. BPA, need, fit. I brought up the OC from Temple because he's rated high. He's talented. And he should be available at #57 or lower. But I don't know about "fit" with him. Happy Easter to you too! Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril 1 by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #44 PARAM, actionjack liked this post Rams brass don't check with me on who they should pick. But if they did, I would tell them to grab the best edge rusher available. Maybe even trade up a few spots if one they covet starts to drop to them at 52. Just to be sure they get him. I'd hate to see them waste Donald's best years by not providing some edge help to ease the double/triple teams he will face. I've been wrong enough to say I could be way off base. But the investments they made, Hav's extension and drafting Noteboom, Evans and Edwards, leads me to believe they will try and get these guys developed. Which is why I don't think they will draft offensive line help with the first two picks. Maybe none on day 2. They could pick a developmental guy later. Drafting more linemen early would mean they got it wrong with the previous picks there. I think its a little too soon to think they got it wrong. For all we know, these guys could turn out to be decent to good linemen with more experience. They gotta see it through instead of cutting bait. 2 by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #45 PARAM liked this post Dick84 wrote:The exception, I think, or exceptions.. is if a highly valued LT or Center fell to you, like a Center you think would automatically move Blythe out of the starting lineup as a rookie and an LT that you're sure could start next year, you do it. Sure, I believe in Noteboom.. but I'd still jump at a prime candidate, if available.Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team. 1 by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #46 snackdaddy wrote:Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team.Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #47 safer wrote:I know a lot of you are pushing for an edge rusher......but in my eyes, we already are paying Floyd $10 mil to do just that. With youngsters Samson, Obo and Polite out there who are earning more time, I think we are pretty flush at that position right now, as opposed to Mlber; Oline and wide out.Rushers usually take 2-3 years to develop (unless your name is Bosa) and we now have three talented guys who aren't yet fully there.None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. 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by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #44 PARAM, actionjack liked this post Rams brass don't check with me on who they should pick. But if they did, I would tell them to grab the best edge rusher available. Maybe even trade up a few spots if one they covet starts to drop to them at 52. Just to be sure they get him. I'd hate to see them waste Donald's best years by not providing some edge help to ease the double/triple teams he will face. I've been wrong enough to say I could be way off base. But the investments they made, Hav's extension and drafting Noteboom, Evans and Edwards, leads me to believe they will try and get these guys developed. Which is why I don't think they will draft offensive line help with the first two picks. Maybe none on day 2. They could pick a developmental guy later. Drafting more linemen early would mean they got it wrong with the previous picks there. I think its a little too soon to think they got it wrong. For all we know, these guys could turn out to be decent to good linemen with more experience. They gotta see it through instead of cutting bait. 2 by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #45 PARAM liked this post Dick84 wrote:The exception, I think, or exceptions.. is if a highly valued LT or Center fell to you, like a Center you think would automatically move Blythe out of the starting lineup as a rookie and an LT that you're sure could start next year, you do it. Sure, I believe in Noteboom.. but I'd still jump at a prime candidate, if available.Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team. 1 by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #46 snackdaddy wrote:Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team.Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #47 safer wrote:I know a lot of you are pushing for an edge rusher......but in my eyes, we already are paying Floyd $10 mil to do just that. With youngsters Samson, Obo and Polite out there who are earning more time, I think we are pretty flush at that position right now, as opposed to Mlber; Oline and wide out.Rushers usually take 2-3 years to develop (unless your name is Bosa) and we now have three talented guys who aren't yet fully there.None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. 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by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #45 PARAM liked this post Dick84 wrote:The exception, I think, or exceptions.. is if a highly valued LT or Center fell to you, like a Center you think would automatically move Blythe out of the starting lineup as a rookie and an LT that you're sure could start next year, you do it. Sure, I believe in Noteboom.. but I'd still jump at a prime candidate, if available.Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team. 1 by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #46 snackdaddy wrote:Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team.Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #47 safer wrote:I know a lot of you are pushing for an edge rusher......but in my eyes, we already are paying Floyd $10 mil to do just that. With youngsters Samson, Obo and Polite out there who are earning more time, I think we are pretty flush at that position right now, as opposed to Mlber; Oline and wide out.Rushers usually take 2-3 years to develop (unless your name is Bosa) and we now have three talented guys who aren't yet fully there.None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. 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by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #46 snackdaddy wrote:Yeah, if all the homework says a guy is ready to start from day one, I could see it. But drafting a guy in the second round hoping he's NFL ready is always a crap shoot. Heck, even in the first round that could be the case. I'm skeptical there are players in the draft that can fill immediate needs. Most times these guys need a year or two. If you're drafting for immediate starters you're probably a rebuilding team.Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020? Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #47 safer wrote:I know a lot of you are pushing for an edge rusher......but in my eyes, we already are paying Floyd $10 mil to do just that. With youngsters Samson, Obo and Polite out there who are earning more time, I think we are pretty flush at that position right now, as opposed to Mlber; Oline and wide out.Rushers usually take 2-3 years to develop (unless your name is Bosa) and we now have three talented guys who aren't yet fully there.None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 67 posts Jul 08 2025
by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #47 safer wrote:I know a lot of you are pushing for an edge rusher......but in my eyes, we already are paying Floyd $10 mil to do just that. With youngsters Samson, Obo and Polite out there who are earning more time, I think we are pretty flush at that position right now, as opposed to Mlber; Oline and wide out.Rushers usually take 2-3 years to develop (unless your name is Bosa) and we now have three talented guys who aren't yet fully there.None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 67 posts Jul 08 2025
by actionjack 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 5185 Joined: May 19 2016 Sactown Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #48 PARAM wrote:I do have high hopes IF they draft an OL, it'll be a C as a good one should be available in the 3rd round. We've got plenty of tackles for when Whitworth retires......Havenstein, Evans, Noteboom, Edwards, etc.I'm not even sure EDGE and OL are high on their list. They have to get another RB and WR. It's pretty simple. Kupp goes down again and that leaves Woods and Reynolds. Brown or Henderson go down and that leaves the other and Kelly. And 1 other thing. I think their days of giving up first round picks for players, midseason is a thing of the past. Their next one is in 2022 and carries much less value than "next year's pick".So why dont you lay out the scenarios if Edge gets injured? At RB we have Brown who is proven he can be a starter in the NFL, and McVay is very high on Henderson. The Rams could always just add a cheap vet. At WR the Rams have 3 very good WR's and two excellent TE's. They will probably play 12 a lot more with the TE improvement. On the other hand the Rams have no proven starters on the edge. Floyd... 3 sacks in 2019, 4 in 2018. Sure he could benefit from AD, but I want a guy who will cause havoc on the edge to unleash AD. Obo and Ebukam have shown some flashes but we have no idea if they can be effective over a whole season. When Polite is still on the team after TC, than I will consider him.We have zero proven starters at ILB. Kiser looks promising but he was lost before the season even started last year. The rest are a bunch of jags. Need to improve this defense to provide better pass rush and better run stopping up the middle. Fuk the Niners and Block Purdy by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 67 posts Jul 08 2025
by PARAM 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 13219 Joined: Jul 15 2015 Just far enough North of Philadelphia Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #49 Last edited by PARAM on Apr 13 2020, edited 2 times in total. actionjack wrote:None of those guys have proven to be effective at rushing the passer, none. We lost a lot of sacks from last year. I agree we need a LB as well, we dont know how effective Kiser will be, plus who plays next to him? But sacks are the best way to get off the field and we have nothing proven. We need more talent at OLB. I will also be shocked if the rams use a high draft pick (2nd round) on offense after already spending a 3rd last year at the RB position. We have two effective Rb's they just need to show they can play a season. WR we have 3 very good WR's but we could lose Reynolds, so I expect them to add in the middle of the draft. Now if the Rams feel like they can pick a pro bowl player on offense in round 2 im all for it.How many guys taken in the first two rounds last year had significant sack production?#2 Bosa - 9, #7 Allen - 10-5, #16 Burns - 7.5 and #26 Sweat -7. Ebukam had 4.5 behind Fowler (11.5) and Matthews (8.0). Are we going to get a pass rusher at #52 or lower who is going to make a significant difference? More than Ebukam or even Obo?We did lose a lot of sacks from last year.....Fowler 11.5, Matthews 8.0 and Littleton 3.5.....that's 23. Who can we draft in the 2nd round who is going to make up for that?We have 2 effective RB's who just need to show they can play a season? Sounds a lot like "none of those pass rushers are proven". Been following the horns since the Coliseum had a Roman playing there. McVay: 77-49, 2 Superbowls, 1 Lombardi............Doubt at your own peril by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 67 posts Jul 08 2025
by snackdaddy 5 years 2 months ago Total posts: 10048 Joined: May 30 2015 Merced California Hall of Fame DRAFT IDEAS AND PROJECTIONS AFTER COOKS TRADE...................... POST #50 PARAM wrote:Which begs to question what direction do they go in the draft? If we're drafting for the future......Here's who's under contract for 2020-2022Malcolm Browns contract expires after 2020Kupp 2020Reynolds 2020Woods 2021Henderson 2022Corbett 2021Noteboom 2021Allen 2021Havenstein 2022Evans 2022Edwards 2022Whitworth 2022Blythe 2020What would you draft in 2020?I don't see any rookies coming in and making the offensive line better right away. Most times they need time to get up to NFL speed. So I would be thinking more down the road. I would be willing to see if these guys can get better. No need to start over unless you think these guys will never improve. I don't think that is the case. I would like to see a receiver somewhere in that mix. Maybe not with the first pick. I think edge rusher is top priority. Running back would be next. I like Henderson and Brown with their change of pace to each other. But we don't know if they can handle a whole season's load. After that I think receiver and ILB. Maybe a receiver who can take the top off the defense. A guy who can return punts too. Jet sweeps, etc. We've been needing a LB or two in the middle for a few years. I'd love to see a thumper in there. But all of that with the idea of not necessarily needing immediate help but for the future. I would draft another offensive lineman on day 2. A project with raw talent in case one of those guys just doesn't have it and we have to move on from him down the road. Reply 5 / 7 1 5 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business