by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #1 TOPIC AUTHOR RFU Season Ticket Holder by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #2 TOPIC AUTHOR http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14446 ... possessionBill Belichick: Matthew Slater followed orders to defer before OTKevin SeifertNFL NationAn unusual exchange between Patriots captain Matthew Slater and referee Clete Blakeman during the overtime coin toss left New England kicking off to start the extra period, a decision that helped the rival Jets to a much-needed victory.Patriots coach Bill Belichick confirmed he instructed Slater to choose to kick if New England won the toss, even though overtime rules allow a team to win outright if it scores a touchdown on its opening possession.The Jets did just that, winning on Ryan Fitzpatrick's 6-yard touchdown pass to receiver Eric Decker to end the game on the opening possession of overtime."We thought that was the best thing to do," Belichick said, adding that he did not regret the decision.The Jets' official Twitter account posted a jab at Belichick and the Patriots after the coach's explanation of the decision.Slater told reporters that the confusion revolved around whether the Patriots could choose the direction of their kick. He said he confirmed multiple times with Patriots coaches that they wanted to kick off if they won the toss.Jets stunned to receive late Christmas gift from Pats in OTIt was a "What the hell?" moment for Brandon Marshall and the Jets when Bill Belichick's Patriots decided to kick off after winning the overtime coin toss.Matthew Slater couldn't 'take back' his OT choice for the PatriotsA small procedural mistake by Matthew Slater played a big role in the New York Jets' 26-20 OT victory over the New England Patriots on Sunday."Before we went out for the toss, coach told us that if we won the toss, we wanted to kick off," Slater said. "So obviously, as a player, you ask three or four times to double check because you want to make sure you get it right. ... The only confusion was whether or not we got to choose which direction we got to kick the ball."Said Fitzpatrick: "Nothing surprises you about the Patriots and strategy and what they think. We were excited to get the opportunity to get the ball and have a chance to put them away."As the road team, the Patriots had the option at the start of overtime to call heads or tails, and Slater called heads.Based on a review of the CBS broadcast, Blakeman acknowledged: "Heads is the call. It is heads." As the camera focused on the coin, Blakeman asked the Patriots, "You want to kick?"Slater replied that the Patriots wanted "to kick, that way," before asking: "Hey, we won [the coin toss]. Don't we get to choose?"Blakeman, with his microphone off, replied, "You elected to kick." Had Slater said he wanted to defend a specific end first, his choice would have been granted, but because he said, "kick" first, he wasn't allowed to pick which end to defend."I was just trying to get clarification because we wanted to kick the other way," Slater said after the game. "But we weren't able to make the decision because we won the toss, and we chose to kick off. That was the end of our decision-making. We didn't get to decide which way we got to kick off."Jets defensive back Calvin Pryor, who was one of the New York captains for the coin toss, said: "Slater did say they were going to kick the ball. He said, 'We want to kick this way.' I was confused what [Slater and Blakeman] were talking about because I thought they were going to receive."Slater said he was just following directions when making the call."They don't pay me to manage the games. It's not my decision," he said. "When I'm told to do something, that's what I'm going to do. The captains, when we're told that we want to kick off, we do it. Obviously in that situation, as a player, maybe you're thinking, 'Hey, we want the ball if we win the toss,' but that's not what coach wanted to do."The Jets (10-5) moved into sole possession of the AFC's second wild card with the victory, moving one game ahead of the Pittsburgh Steelers (9-6). New York can clinch a postseason spot with a victory next week against the Buffalo Bills.The Patriots also chose to kick off to start overtime during a 2013 game against the Denver Broncos. Belichick said the wind affected the decision then, and it worked out that time, as New England went on to win 34-31.In Week 9 this season, the Minnesota Vikings elected to kick off in overtime because of wind at TCF Bank Stadium. The Vikings ultimately defeated the St. Louis Rams 21-18.ESPN Patriots reporter Mike Reiss contributed to this report. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #3 He didn't know the rule. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #4 Ya, I was watching the game on RedZone. So akward and strange. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #5 It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #6 Hacksaw wrote:It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession?Mike Zimmer did the same thing when we played the Vikings but it was totally different scenario. We had Nick Foles and the wind against us. Bill has Tom Brady, take the ball and score dummy. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #7 Not only that, but with some 40 seconds left and the Jets about to punt, Belechick used his last time out to try and set up a punt block. When the Pasts got the ball on their 20-25 with 30 sec left, they took a knee.They really thought the Jets wouldnt be able to score again and that all they needed was 1 more posessionWeird.But cool. I used to root for the Jets before they had Sanchez/Rex Ryan. At least I can pull for a team next week now.... Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Jul 11 2025 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by Elvis 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 41518 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #2 TOPIC AUTHOR http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14446 ... possessionBill Belichick: Matthew Slater followed orders to defer before OTKevin SeifertNFL NationAn unusual exchange between Patriots captain Matthew Slater and referee Clete Blakeman during the overtime coin toss left New England kicking off to start the extra period, a decision that helped the rival Jets to a much-needed victory.Patriots coach Bill Belichick confirmed he instructed Slater to choose to kick if New England won the toss, even though overtime rules allow a team to win outright if it scores a touchdown on its opening possession.The Jets did just that, winning on Ryan Fitzpatrick's 6-yard touchdown pass to receiver Eric Decker to end the game on the opening possession of overtime."We thought that was the best thing to do," Belichick said, adding that he did not regret the decision.The Jets' official Twitter account posted a jab at Belichick and the Patriots after the coach's explanation of the decision.Slater told reporters that the confusion revolved around whether the Patriots could choose the direction of their kick. He said he confirmed multiple times with Patriots coaches that they wanted to kick off if they won the toss.Jets stunned to receive late Christmas gift from Pats in OTIt was a "What the hell?" moment for Brandon Marshall and the Jets when Bill Belichick's Patriots decided to kick off after winning the overtime coin toss.Matthew Slater couldn't 'take back' his OT choice for the PatriotsA small procedural mistake by Matthew Slater played a big role in the New York Jets' 26-20 OT victory over the New England Patriots on Sunday."Before we went out for the toss, coach told us that if we won the toss, we wanted to kick off," Slater said. "So obviously, as a player, you ask three or four times to double check because you want to make sure you get it right. ... The only confusion was whether or not we got to choose which direction we got to kick the ball."Said Fitzpatrick: "Nothing surprises you about the Patriots and strategy and what they think. We were excited to get the opportunity to get the ball and have a chance to put them away."As the road team, the Patriots had the option at the start of overtime to call heads or tails, and Slater called heads.Based on a review of the CBS broadcast, Blakeman acknowledged: "Heads is the call. It is heads." As the camera focused on the coin, Blakeman asked the Patriots, "You want to kick?"Slater replied that the Patriots wanted "to kick, that way," before asking: "Hey, we won [the coin toss]. Don't we get to choose?"Blakeman, with his microphone off, replied, "You elected to kick." Had Slater said he wanted to defend a specific end first, his choice would have been granted, but because he said, "kick" first, he wasn't allowed to pick which end to defend."I was just trying to get clarification because we wanted to kick the other way," Slater said after the game. "But we weren't able to make the decision because we won the toss, and we chose to kick off. That was the end of our decision-making. We didn't get to decide which way we got to kick off."Jets defensive back Calvin Pryor, who was one of the New York captains for the coin toss, said: "Slater did say they were going to kick the ball. He said, 'We want to kick this way.' I was confused what [Slater and Blakeman] were talking about because I thought they were going to receive."Slater said he was just following directions when making the call."They don't pay me to manage the games. It's not my decision," he said. "When I'm told to do something, that's what I'm going to do. The captains, when we're told that we want to kick off, we do it. Obviously in that situation, as a player, maybe you're thinking, 'Hey, we want the ball if we win the toss,' but that's not what coach wanted to do."The Jets (10-5) moved into sole possession of the AFC's second wild card with the victory, moving one game ahead of the Pittsburgh Steelers (9-6). New York can clinch a postseason spot with a victory next week against the Buffalo Bills.The Patriots also chose to kick off to start overtime during a 2013 game against the Denver Broncos. Belichick said the wind affected the decision then, and it worked out that time, as New England went on to win 34-31.In Week 9 this season, the Minnesota Vikings elected to kick off in overtime because of wind at TCF Bank Stadium. The Vikings ultimately defeated the St. Louis Rams 21-18.ESPN Patriots reporter Mike Reiss contributed to this report. RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #3 He didn't know the rule. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #4 Ya, I was watching the game on RedZone. So akward and strange. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #5 It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #6 Hacksaw wrote:It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession?Mike Zimmer did the same thing when we played the Vikings but it was totally different scenario. We had Nick Foles and the wind against us. Bill has Tom Brady, take the ball and score dummy. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #7 Not only that, but with some 40 seconds left and the Jets about to punt, Belechick used his last time out to try and set up a punt block. When the Pasts got the ball on their 20-25 with 30 sec left, they took a knee.They really thought the Jets wouldnt be able to score again and that all they needed was 1 more posessionWeird.But cool. I used to root for the Jets before they had Sanchez/Rex Ryan. At least I can pull for a team next week now.... Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Jul 11 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #3 He didn't know the rule. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #4 Ya, I was watching the game on RedZone. So akward and strange. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #5 It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #6 Hacksaw wrote:It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession?Mike Zimmer did the same thing when we played the Vikings but it was totally different scenario. We had Nick Foles and the wind against us. Bill has Tom Brady, take the ball and score dummy. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #7 Not only that, but with some 40 seconds left and the Jets about to punt, Belechick used his last time out to try and set up a punt block. When the Pasts got the ball on their 20-25 with 30 sec left, they took a knee.They really thought the Jets wouldnt be able to score again and that all they needed was 1 more posessionWeird.But cool. I used to root for the Jets before they had Sanchez/Rex Ryan. At least I can pull for a team next week now.... Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Jul 11 2025
by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #4 Ya, I was watching the game on RedZone. So akward and strange. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #5 It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #6 Hacksaw wrote:It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession?Mike Zimmer did the same thing when we played the Vikings but it was totally different scenario. We had Nick Foles and the wind against us. Bill has Tom Brady, take the ball and score dummy. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #7 Not only that, but with some 40 seconds left and the Jets about to punt, Belechick used his last time out to try and set up a punt block. When the Pasts got the ball on their 20-25 with 30 sec left, they took a knee.They really thought the Jets wouldnt be able to score again and that all they needed was 1 more posessionWeird.But cool. I used to root for the Jets before they had Sanchez/Rex Ryan. At least I can pull for a team next week now.... Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Jul 11 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #5 It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #6 Hacksaw wrote:It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession?Mike Zimmer did the same thing when we played the Vikings but it was totally different scenario. We had Nick Foles and the wind against us. Bill has Tom Brady, take the ball and score dummy. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #7 Not only that, but with some 40 seconds left and the Jets about to punt, Belechick used his last time out to try and set up a punt block. When the Pasts got the ball on their 20-25 with 30 sec left, they took a knee.They really thought the Jets wouldnt be able to score again and that all they needed was 1 more posessionWeird.But cool. I used to root for the Jets before they had Sanchez/Rex Ryan. At least I can pull for a team next week now.... Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Jul 11 2025
by BuiltRamTough 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 5357 Joined: May 15 2015 Los Angeles Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #6 Hacksaw wrote:It seems like a dumb rule. I guess in certain weather conditions it could make a difference. Other than that, why should kicking the ball on a deferment suddenly equal a possession?Mike Zimmer did the same thing when we played the Vikings but it was totally different scenario. We had Nick Foles and the wind against us. Bill has Tom Brady, take the ball and score dummy. We Not Me RFU Season Ticket Holder by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #7 Not only that, but with some 40 seconds left and the Jets about to punt, Belechick used his last time out to try and set up a punt block. When the Pasts got the ball on their 20-25 with 30 sec left, they took a knee.They really thought the Jets wouldnt be able to score again and that all they needed was 1 more posessionWeird.But cool. I used to root for the Jets before they had Sanchez/Rex Ryan. At least I can pull for a team next week now.... Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 7 posts Jul 11 2025
by dieterbrock 9 years 6 months ago Total posts: 11512 Joined: Mar 31 2015 New Jersey Hall of Fame Re: Patriots Bizarre Over Time Decision POST #7 Not only that, but with some 40 seconds left and the Jets about to punt, Belechick used his last time out to try and set up a punt block. When the Pasts got the ball on their 20-25 with 30 sec left, they took a knee.They really thought the Jets wouldnt be able to score again and that all they needed was 1 more posessionWeird.But cool. I used to root for the Jets before they had Sanchez/Rex Ryan. At least I can pull for a team next week now.... Reply 1 / 1 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business