[SoCalRam78]

1. We've established that the St. Louis offer in the NFL's eyes is garbage at many levels. This is not open to debate anymore. Not enough money in total for a stadium let alone not enough public money being offered. The amusement tax private money being dressed up as public money is another issue. St. Louis/state offered 315 million in public assistance before SD and Oak when all is said and done, not nothing, but nothing that ESK is going to be thrilled about when he and the NFL have to cover 700 million and more likely closer to a billion dollars to play in a "low tier" market. That stadium isn't going to be built.

2. B of A, despite some grandstanding, will pass it through the ways and means tomorrow and likely the full board before the New Year, not that it'll mean much. Remember Bob McNair? "That isn't going to help them." Of course 121/160 state house members and 21/32 state senators oppose the current stadium bill in total. Good luck fighting off lawsuits. Just saying now, prepare yourselves tomorrow for the local idiots thinking the Ways and Means passing ensures St. Louis Rams football indefinitely. It's coming.

3. Does 1 above give enough juice to NFL owners to give 24 votes for Carson/Raiders/Chargers? I don't think so, and I don't think the Rams will have it either. So again, the grand bargain needs to be reached or there will be a stalemate.

4. The Oakland developmental news. Red herring or planted information by the league to give the Raiders a nice landing spot in Oakland? Coincidence or planted news from the NFL that comes a couple days before the Grubman blast on St. Louis radio?

Stay tuned and grab some popcorn.

[SWAdude]

If for some reason Kroenke feels forced staying in St Louis, and he WILL feel that way, he won't sell the team. And I can see him not really trying to bring a good product to the St Louis fans.

We all may not have the love for our Rams we feel now with the sh!t show that will happen with the St Louis fans and Kroenke. And my money is he won't ever commit to that stadium. He will stay in the Doom until he is evicted. I have to hope the NFL can see this as a serious potential.

[Stranger]

If for some reason Kroenke feels forced staying in St Louis, and he WILL feel that way, he won't sell the team. And I can see him not really trying to bring a good product to the St Louis fans.

We all may not have the love for our Rams we feel now with the sh!t show that will happen with the St Louis fans and Kroenke. And my money is he won't ever commit to that stadium. He will stay in the Doom until he is evicted. I have to hope the NFL can see this as a serious potential.

I agree that it will get ugly. But I also think he'll continue to find alternative venue to move to.

On the other hand, there is no way Inglewood & the Rams doesn't happen.