by laram 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 444 Joined: Sep 30 2015 LA Coliseum Starter Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #221 Elvis wrote:I've never really been a fan, and a lot of the time he's unlistenable, but he was one of the first in L.A. to really cover this story. And his reporting has been solid to this point, as far as i can tell. So, like it or not, i pay close attention to Fred Roggin...Yeah it would virtually be impossible to be in the media as long as he has in this and other markets, and not make some solid connects.But he's slippery. I use to be a big fan because he pulled himself up from a deep hole, but I've seen some things that have soured me on him.He's on a major campaign now and everything is fair game. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #222 Elvis wrote:https://twitter.com/KMOXSports/status/672755153376800768So which funding plan are they voting on next week? Didn't the term sheet change? There was that $75M change. Where is that coming from again? The State? Don't they need to vote too? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #223 Last edited by max on Dec 04 2015, edited 1 time in total. Roggin hasn't owned up to his statements in his interview with D"Marco Farr back in August.Roggin told Farr that the Rams are going to LA, that's it over. Forget Carson, it's not happening.Go back and listen to that podcast if you can find it.It's ok for Fred to be overzealous, but it's nauseating to hear him say I've never been wrong over and over, then say it could be Carson when he said it wouldn't be Carson 4 months ago. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #224 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?Awesome New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by AltiTude Ram 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #225 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?I'm not really sure on what it says to tell the truth. The article is 2 years old but seemed to insinuate that there was only one G4 loan left for 3 teams seeking a new stadium. It did suggest that the NFL could expand the program to 2 G4 loans as a possibility. Again, it's 2 years old but did break down the money available as well as the 49'ers/Vikings/Falcons stadiums which are the latest new stadiums built. by Elvis 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41511 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #226 Hacksaw wrote:Bummer. I was hoping they'd stall. I wonder if it passes?Probably, they don't want to be the ones to take the fall... RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #227 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?G4 loan is set up with a certain % of the NFL's revenue is set aside for stadium renovations or new stadium construction in a teams home market. With the revenue level set at the time of the last CBA for this round of G4 there was 1 billion dollars in it. The plan was to provide 4 loans of $250 million. Three of those loans are already gone leaving us with one loan. Some fun things you can read in other areas about the G4. It's original purpose and current wording in the agreement is it's only for current market stadiums. No team relocating will have access to the loans. Yet with all these facts you'll see G4 money in Carson for both teams. And in St Louis for the Rams staying. So we have 2 competing stadium plans calling for 3 G4 loans when the money is only there for 1 $250 million dollar loan. The fact that the money isn't there for all this G4 loving is something that people in St Louis refuse to acknowledge. 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by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #222 Elvis wrote:https://twitter.com/KMOXSports/status/672755153376800768So which funding plan are they voting on next week? Didn't the term sheet change? There was that $75M change. Where is that coming from again? The State? Don't they need to vote too? GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #223 Last edited by max on Dec 04 2015, edited 1 time in total. Roggin hasn't owned up to his statements in his interview with D"Marco Farr back in August.Roggin told Farr that the Rams are going to LA, that's it over. Forget Carson, it's not happening.Go back and listen to that podcast if you can find it.It's ok for Fred to be overzealous, but it's nauseating to hear him say I've never been wrong over and over, then say it could be Carson when he said it wouldn't be Carson 4 months ago. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #224 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?Awesome New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by AltiTude Ram 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #225 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?I'm not really sure on what it says to tell the truth. The article is 2 years old but seemed to insinuate that there was only one G4 loan left for 3 teams seeking a new stadium. It did suggest that the NFL could expand the program to 2 G4 loans as a possibility. Again, it's 2 years old but did break down the money available as well as the 49'ers/Vikings/Falcons stadiums which are the latest new stadiums built. by Elvis 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41511 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #226 Hacksaw wrote:Bummer. I was hoping they'd stall. I wonder if it passes?Probably, they don't want to be the ones to take the fall... RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #227 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?G4 loan is set up with a certain % of the NFL's revenue is set aside for stadium renovations or new stadium construction in a teams home market. With the revenue level set at the time of the last CBA for this round of G4 there was 1 billion dollars in it. The plan was to provide 4 loans of $250 million. Three of those loans are already gone leaving us with one loan. Some fun things you can read in other areas about the G4. It's original purpose and current wording in the agreement is it's only for current market stadiums. No team relocating will have access to the loans. Yet with all these facts you'll see G4 money in Carson for both teams. And in St Louis for the Rams staying. So we have 2 competing stadium plans calling for 3 G4 loans when the money is only there for 1 $250 million dollar loan. The fact that the money isn't there for all this G4 loving is something that people in St Louis refuse to acknowledge. Reply 23 / 23 1 23 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 227 posts Jul 09 2025
by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #223 Last edited by max on Dec 04 2015, edited 1 time in total. Roggin hasn't owned up to his statements in his interview with D"Marco Farr back in August.Roggin told Farr that the Rams are going to LA, that's it over. Forget Carson, it's not happening.Go back and listen to that podcast if you can find it.It's ok for Fred to be overzealous, but it's nauseating to hear him say I've never been wrong over and over, then say it could be Carson when he said it wouldn't be Carson 4 months ago. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #224 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?Awesome New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by AltiTude Ram 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #225 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?I'm not really sure on what it says to tell the truth. The article is 2 years old but seemed to insinuate that there was only one G4 loan left for 3 teams seeking a new stadium. It did suggest that the NFL could expand the program to 2 G4 loans as a possibility. Again, it's 2 years old but did break down the money available as well as the 49'ers/Vikings/Falcons stadiums which are the latest new stadiums built. by Elvis 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41511 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #226 Hacksaw wrote:Bummer. I was hoping they'd stall. I wonder if it passes?Probably, they don't want to be the ones to take the fall... RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #227 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?G4 loan is set up with a certain % of the NFL's revenue is set aside for stadium renovations or new stadium construction in a teams home market. With the revenue level set at the time of the last CBA for this round of G4 there was 1 billion dollars in it. The plan was to provide 4 loans of $250 million. Three of those loans are already gone leaving us with one loan. Some fun things you can read in other areas about the G4. It's original purpose and current wording in the agreement is it's only for current market stadiums. No team relocating will have access to the loans. Yet with all these facts you'll see G4 money in Carson for both teams. And in St Louis for the Rams staying. So we have 2 competing stadium plans calling for 3 G4 loans when the money is only there for 1 $250 million dollar loan. The fact that the money isn't there for all this G4 loving is something that people in St Louis refuse to acknowledge. Reply 23 / 23 1 23 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 227 posts Jul 09 2025
by Stranger 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 3213 Joined: Aug 12 2015 Norcal Superstar Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #224 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?Awesome New HC. New L.A. Stadium. Future is Bright. by AltiTude Ram 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #225 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?I'm not really sure on what it says to tell the truth. The article is 2 years old but seemed to insinuate that there was only one G4 loan left for 3 teams seeking a new stadium. It did suggest that the NFL could expand the program to 2 G4 loans as a possibility. Again, it's 2 years old but did break down the money available as well as the 49'ers/Vikings/Falcons stadiums which are the latest new stadiums built. by Elvis 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41511 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #226 Hacksaw wrote:Bummer. I was hoping they'd stall. I wonder if it passes?Probably, they don't want to be the ones to take the fall... RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #227 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?G4 loan is set up with a certain % of the NFL's revenue is set aside for stadium renovations or new stadium construction in a teams home market. With the revenue level set at the time of the last CBA for this round of G4 there was 1 billion dollars in it. The plan was to provide 4 loans of $250 million. Three of those loans are already gone leaving us with one loan. Some fun things you can read in other areas about the G4. It's original purpose and current wording in the agreement is it's only for current market stadiums. No team relocating will have access to the loans. Yet with all these facts you'll see G4 money in Carson for both teams. And in St Louis for the Rams staying. So we have 2 competing stadium plans calling for 3 G4 loans when the money is only there for 1 $250 million dollar loan. The fact that the money isn't there for all this G4 loving is something that people in St Louis refuse to acknowledge. Reply 23 / 23 1 23 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 227 posts Jul 09 2025
by AltiTude Ram 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2460 Joined: Jul 09 2015 Denver Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #225 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?I'm not really sure on what it says to tell the truth. The article is 2 years old but seemed to insinuate that there was only one G4 loan left for 3 teams seeking a new stadium. It did suggest that the NFL could expand the program to 2 G4 loans as a possibility. Again, it's 2 years old but did break down the money available as well as the 49'ers/Vikings/Falcons stadiums which are the latest new stadiums built. by Elvis 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41511 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #226 Hacksaw wrote:Bummer. I was hoping they'd stall. I wonder if it passes?Probably, they don't want to be the ones to take the fall... RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #227 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?G4 loan is set up with a certain % of the NFL's revenue is set aside for stadium renovations or new stadium construction in a teams home market. With the revenue level set at the time of the last CBA for this round of G4 there was 1 billion dollars in it. The plan was to provide 4 loans of $250 million. Three of those loans are already gone leaving us with one loan. Some fun things you can read in other areas about the G4. It's original purpose and current wording in the agreement is it's only for current market stadiums. No team relocating will have access to the loans. Yet with all these facts you'll see G4 money in Carson for both teams. And in St Louis for the Rams staying. So we have 2 competing stadium plans calling for 3 G4 loans when the money is only there for 1 $250 million dollar loan. The fact that the money isn't there for all this G4 loving is something that people in St Louis refuse to acknowledge. Reply 23 / 23 1 23 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 227 posts Jul 09 2025
by Elvis 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 41511 Joined: Mar 28 2015 Los Angeles Administrator Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #226 Hacksaw wrote:Bummer. I was hoping they'd stall. I wonder if it passes?Probably, they don't want to be the ones to take the fall... RFU Season Ticket Holder by OldSchool 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #227 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?G4 loan is set up with a certain % of the NFL's revenue is set aside for stadium renovations or new stadium construction in a teams home market. With the revenue level set at the time of the last CBA for this round of G4 there was 1 billion dollars in it. The plan was to provide 4 loans of $250 million. Three of those loans are already gone leaving us with one loan. Some fun things you can read in other areas about the G4. It's original purpose and current wording in the agreement is it's only for current market stadiums. No team relocating will have access to the loans. Yet with all these facts you'll see G4 money in Carson for both teams. And in St Louis for the Rams staying. So we have 2 competing stadium plans calling for 3 G4 loans when the money is only there for 1 $250 million dollar loan. The fact that the money isn't there for all this G4 loving is something that people in St Louis refuse to acknowledge. Reply 23 / 23 1 23 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 227 posts Jul 09 2025
by OldSchool 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 1750 Joined: Jun 09 2015 LA Coliseum Pro Bowl Re: December Owner's Meeting POST #227 dieterbrock wrote:Hacksaw wrote:Good stuff AltiTude. Thank you.Agree, thanks AltiNow, does anyone wnat to give a synopsis? My ADD only allows me to read about 2 sentences before I cant seem to find that pen that I left next door to the grocery store is holy crap what a final play by Green Bay. Wait, what was I saying?G4 loan is set up with a certain % of the NFL's revenue is set aside for stadium renovations or new stadium construction in a teams home market. With the revenue level set at the time of the last CBA for this round of G4 there was 1 billion dollars in it. The plan was to provide 4 loans of $250 million. Three of those loans are already gone leaving us with one loan. Some fun things you can read in other areas about the G4. It's original purpose and current wording in the agreement is it's only for current market stadiums. No team relocating will have access to the loans. Yet with all these facts you'll see G4 money in Carson for both teams. And in St Louis for the Rams staying. So we have 2 competing stadium plans calling for 3 G4 loans when the money is only there for 1 $250 million dollar loan. The fact that the money isn't there for all this G4 loving is something that people in St Louis refuse to acknowledge. Reply 23 / 23 1 23 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business