[dieterbrock]

I love having a QB who throws the ball down field several times a game, and isn't just compiling a high comp %
Plus I think the TE's are shit and lesser QB would struggle without legit TE play, but he makes up for it with hitting on 2nd and 3rd options

[LARams_1963]

Did he play poorly? No way... You can't blame him for the first half TOP numbers. 8min to 22 min. That falls on the defense.

[LARams_1963]

For those who thought he played poorly... I'll leave this right here.....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... gruden-era


Jared Goff rises, while Derek Carr stumbles to begin Gruden era



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By Jim Trotter
NFL.com reporter
Published: Sept. 11, 2018 at 02:00 p.m. Updated: Sept. 11, 2018 at 03:38 p.m.

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Jared Goff walked into a cramped room in the belly of Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum and commanded the moment without saying a word. Dressed in a tailored plum-colored suit with thin blue window panes, a patterned open-collared white shirt and a perfectly folded pocket square, he positioned himself behind the lectern and cleared his throat. Then he straightened his back and looked into the audience.

The image was that of a third-year quarterback who is completely comfortable with who he is and what he's doing. For several seconds, no one said anything, as if waiting for the young star to give the OK after helping the Rams to a 33-13 victory over the Raiders on "Monday Night Football." When a reporter finally began speaking, Goff reached to his right and grabbed an open bottle of water from a team assistant, took a sip, and then handed the bottle back to the assistant without ever taking his eyes off the questioner.


He was in complete control, just as he had been on the field while completing 18 of 33 passes for 233 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions. The numbers were not eye-popping for someone who threw for 3,804 yards and 28 touchdowns last season, but the deeper beauty was in how he performed more than it was in the final results. Goff played with greater abandon, regularly attempting to fit the ball into tight spaces that he might have avoided a year ago, when he was learning a new offense under new coach Sean McVay and trying to rebound from a poor rookie season.

"It really is a result of his (personal) confidence and his confidence in his skill-position players," McVay said afterward. "He's going to give them a chance, he's going to trust. ... I like the fact that he's aggressive, as long as it's in the framework of what the coverage and what the play call dictates."

Goff started slowly after not taking a snap in the preseason. His rust was compounded by the Raiders' ability to control the ball for all but three minutes of the first quarter. But he began to find his rhythm in the second half, when he completed 14 of 23 passes for 173 yards. Although some will point to his willingness to throw deep -- on two occasions, speedy newcomer Brandin Cooks drew pass-interference calls that totaled 87 yards, and on two others, Goff missed Robert Woods by inches -- it was his attempt to fit the ball into tight coverage that reflected a difference in the 2017 Pro Bowler, a point that could be traced to his confidence in the offense and his maturation as a signal-caller.

"I think all of that," Goff said. "It's just confidence in what we do and really understanding the scheme and understanding what we're trying to get to and where the windows are and not guessing -- and really being truly confident in yourself. That showed tonight."

The same could not be said of his counterpart, Raiders quarterback Derek Carr. After completing 20 of 24 passes for 199 yards in the first half, he appeared completely out of sorts in the final two quarters, throwing for just 104 yards with a pair of fourth-quarter interceptions, one of which cornerback Marcus Peters returned for a touchdown. There was no play to be made on either, and on the first one, linebacker Cory Littleton was the only receiver in the vicinity. Why did Carr make that throw? Perhaps he was pressing and trying to make something happen, but it appeared as if a clock went off in his head and he was hell-bent on getting rid of the ball.

These things cannot happen if the Raiders are to succeed this season. As much as some might refuse to admit it, 2018 will be a referendum on Carr as much as it will be on new/old coach Jon Gruden. The fifth-year pro, who threw three interceptions overall against the Rams, has to be in command on the field and in the locker room, particularly in light of the recent trade that sent 2016 Defensive Player of the Year (and defensive captain) Khalil Mack to the Bears.


Carr was signed to a $125 million extension before last season, despite having his stellar 2016 campaign end with a broken leg. Then he never quite looked right in 2017. He now has a coach who is evaluating everyone and everything, a coach who is committed only to the bottom line, a coach who believes that to whom much is given, much is required. Gruden has a history of being toughest on his quarterbacks, and he doesn't figure to stand by someone whose performance does not match his contract -- not when the team just received a pair of first-round draft picks in the Mack trade.

To say that this is a "prove it" year for Carr is not an overstatement. The previous coaching staff loved his athletic ability but at times questioned whether he had the internal grit to be the type of leader who could take command of a team as well as a game, who could challenge guys in a way that made them and himself uncomfortable. Even Gruden acknowledged after taking the job that he wanted to see Carr take greater command on the field and in the locker room. We did not see that Monday night. Will we going forward? The answer is a lot more murky today than it was 24 hours ago.

Follow Jim Trotter on Twitter @JimTrotter_NFL.

[CanuckRightWinger]

For me, this thread epitomizes why I post here, as opposed to other Rams sites. No group think here at RFU....and I really enjoy having that diversity of opinions....
BUT ALSO SMART OPINIONS!

To these old eyes, Goff's season opener accuracy was NOT the sharpest. I thought he threw behind guys most of the night....
moreover, a couple of his contested balls were batted around in the air, and we were lucky they were not snagged by a Raider before they hit the ground.

BUT....as posted, it is nice to have a big-armed QB try to take the top of the D a coupla times a game.....and if we get the PI call, then it is just as good as a completion....maybe not on the stat-sheet, but certainly vis a vis FIELD POSITION.

All in all, my verdict on Jared Goff's opening night passing performance?

WELL WITHIN THE ACCEPTABLE RANGE!!! .....OR...B-minus

AGAIN....thanks for the well thought out opinions above. Just as these McVay-led Rams are not the Wilderness Decades SOSAR Rams anymore,
...so too, neither is this RFU Forum of smart-guys the Ram Stalk wilderness of the old St. Louis Post-Disgrace either!!!

IN closing...
I predict that Jared Goff's accuracy, timing, AND MOXEY will ALL get sharper as the 2018 season progresses.

[dieterbrock]

Goff
1st half, 4/10 61 yds, team scored 10 points
2nd half, 14/23 172 yds, team scored 16 points

If that 2nd half is "poor" then sign me up for poverty....

[VegasRam]

To me, A=Great, B=Good, C=Average, D=Poor, F=Terrible.
Goff played Average to Good, so C+/B- is fair.
I really like Goff, and still like him better than Wentz, even though he is not as gifted physically or talent wise. His strength to me is his attitude and presence. His accuracy needs to improve, and in the red zone, he's a bit of a one trick pony - as in right flat only. Lucky not to get picked in the middle Monday nite.

His arm is stronger than last year, imo, and he looks a bit bigger, his throws rolling to his right are way better than last year, and he will make a bigger jump this year than from '16 - '17.
TST is correct saying that he rode Gurley and the "D" more than the other way around, but he didn't play "poorly".

[actionjack]

Goff is so underrated by the league and even Ram fan. He is so much better than what have had since Warner/Bulger its crazy. His stats last year were truly top 5ish. 28 TD's and 7 INT in your second year in the league??!?!? For a guy who throws the ball down field and has 7 pics in his second year is unreal. I hope he can manage to have that success again this year.

I think the only thing Goff has yet to prove or show is taking the team on his back when they need him to do it. That 4th quarter comeback with 2 min left, that kinda thing. I surely think he can do it, but I think that is the only thing he has not yet to proved on the field.

We are blessed to have this guy. If our o-line continues to give Goff great time in the pocket we are good....

[Extremes]

By courtesy of Govane (ramsrule user)

I know he missed a lot of the deep shots on Monday. But I like that he took the shot, and he let the ball go early. Goff and company will start hitting these deep shots soon I'm sure. McVay is a genius, and Goff is a huge weapon in his hands.

The ball hit Cooks in the head on this one. Cooks came open but had to slow down for the ball and got the PI. Rams were down 3 late in 2nd and got a FG on this drive.




Here Woods is not even with the defenders, and Goff is already on his throwing motion. Goff barely overthrew Woods on this one. This was on 2nd and 15 late in third when score was tied at 13. Rams ended up punting on this drive. Too bad Goff doesn't see his superstar wide open in the flat.


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My thoughts after seeing Govane post: I did not anticipate him throwing with this much anticipation. I truly believe that Goff will throw over 40 tds this year. That type of aggression will result in more interceptions as well as touchdowns. I love his aggression. Much more aggressive this year than last year. He had a play not illustrated above where he threw the tightest window possible to Brandin Cooks out of bounds for about 15-19 yards that was incomplete ( almost got both feet in) instead throwing a completion on a dump-off pass to Cooper Kupp on the left flat for about a no gain to pad his completion percentage. I don't want my quarterbacks to dink and dunk when they can go for your throat (Ben Roethlisberger, Marino, Aaron Rodgers etc.) This was the play I was talking about earlier:

I'ma leave this down here, Montanaesque composure.

[AvengerRam]

The play where he made the "micro movement" was very impressive.

[PhxRam]

PC. There are still issues with mobile but we're working on it (well A1 is). We definitely know there's a problem..

I am not having any issues on any device.