by max 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 5714 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #11 Trae Waynes can't even get on the field and he's a 74.5. LOL.I've listened to the PFF podcasts. What a bunch of self-absorbed know-it-alls.On the last PFF podcast, the host mentioned that the Wall Street Journal said that Todd Gurley is already the best RB in the NFL and they all scoffed at that. The guy who writes for the WSJ is Mike Salfino, a very bright guy who does a podcast with Scott Pianowski, one of the best FF guys out there. Salfino works closely with Massey-Peabody, the brilliant quant guys from Yale and Wharton. Guys who actually look at film and who are respected in the business, all consider Gurley an elite player.When I see PFF rating Gurley as an average starter, that tells me all I need to know about them. There is no way they can rationalize that grade to an intelligent person.I look at PFF grades for fun, more to see if they got it right than to tell me something I don't already know. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by Hacksaw_64 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #12 TOPIC AUTHOR max wrote:Trae Waynes can't even get on the field and he's a 74.5. LOL.I've listened to the PFF podcasts. What a bunch of self-absorbed know-it-alls.On the last PFF podcast, the host mentioned that the Wall Street Journal said that Todd Gurley is already the best RB in the NFL and they all scoffed at that. The guy who writes for the WSJ is Mike Salfino, a very bright guy who does a podcast with Scott Pianowski, one of the best FF guys out there. Salfino works closely with Massey-Peabody, the brilliant quant guys from Yale and Wharton. Guys who actually look at film and who are respected in the business, all consider Gurley an elite player.When I see PFF rating Gurley as an average starter, that tells me all I need to know about them. There is no way they can rationalize that grade to an intelligent person.I look at PFF grades for fun, more to see if they got it right than to tell me something I don't already know.Yeah, I definitely take their grades with a grain of salt. Sometimes I really have to wonder. Its nice to have some sort of database to look at/reference though since I can't watch all the players all the time. Over time I think they get a more right then they do wrong. by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #13 I dunno . . .It's got to be difficult to grade what someone did without actually knowing what they were supposed to do and I don't know the credentials of the people at PFF.That being said, hey, did anyone get Jared Cook's number? TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by Hacksaw_64 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #14 TOPIC AUTHOR TSFH Fan wrote:I dunno . . .It's got to be difficult to grade what someone did without actually knowing what they were supposed to do and I don't know the credentials of the people at PFF.That being said, hey, did anyone get Jared Cook's number? That pass catching curve is pretty ugly.I did notice him making some nice blocks against the whiners though. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #15 As GRob get's minutes his play declines. I wonder if he's injured. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #16 Thank you for Cookie info! TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Jul 07 2025
by Hacksaw_64 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #12 TOPIC AUTHOR max wrote:Trae Waynes can't even get on the field and he's a 74.5. LOL.I've listened to the PFF podcasts. What a bunch of self-absorbed know-it-alls.On the last PFF podcast, the host mentioned that the Wall Street Journal said that Todd Gurley is already the best RB in the NFL and they all scoffed at that. The guy who writes for the WSJ is Mike Salfino, a very bright guy who does a podcast with Scott Pianowski, one of the best FF guys out there. Salfino works closely with Massey-Peabody, the brilliant quant guys from Yale and Wharton. Guys who actually look at film and who are respected in the business, all consider Gurley an elite player.When I see PFF rating Gurley as an average starter, that tells me all I need to know about them. There is no way they can rationalize that grade to an intelligent person.I look at PFF grades for fun, more to see if they got it right than to tell me something I don't already know.Yeah, I definitely take their grades with a grain of salt. Sometimes I really have to wonder. Its nice to have some sort of database to look at/reference though since I can't watch all the players all the time. Over time I think they get a more right then they do wrong. by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #13 I dunno . . .It's got to be difficult to grade what someone did without actually knowing what they were supposed to do and I don't know the credentials of the people at PFF.That being said, hey, did anyone get Jared Cook's number? TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by Hacksaw_64 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #14 TOPIC AUTHOR TSFH Fan wrote:I dunno . . .It's got to be difficult to grade what someone did without actually knowing what they were supposed to do and I don't know the credentials of the people at PFF.That being said, hey, did anyone get Jared Cook's number? That pass catching curve is pretty ugly.I did notice him making some nice blocks against the whiners though. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #15 As GRob get's minutes his play declines. I wonder if he's injured. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #16 Thank you for Cookie info! TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Jul 07 2025
by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #13 I dunno . . .It's got to be difficult to grade what someone did without actually knowing what they were supposed to do and I don't know the credentials of the people at PFF.That being said, hey, did anyone get Jared Cook's number? TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ by Hacksaw_64 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #14 TOPIC AUTHOR TSFH Fan wrote:I dunno . . .It's got to be difficult to grade what someone did without actually knowing what they were supposed to do and I don't know the credentials of the people at PFF.That being said, hey, did anyone get Jared Cook's number? That pass catching curve is pretty ugly.I did notice him making some nice blocks against the whiners though. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #15 As GRob get's minutes his play declines. I wonder if he's injured. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #16 Thank you for Cookie info! TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Jul 07 2025
by Hacksaw_64 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 2686 Joined: Sep 08 2015 Inglewood, CA Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #14 TOPIC AUTHOR TSFH Fan wrote:I dunno . . .It's got to be difficult to grade what someone did without actually knowing what they were supposed to do and I don't know the credentials of the people at PFF.That being said, hey, did anyone get Jared Cook's number? That pass catching curve is pretty ugly.I did notice him making some nice blocks against the whiners though. by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #15 As GRob get's minutes his play declines. I wonder if he's injured. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #16 Thank you for Cookie info! TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Jul 07 2025
by Hacksaw 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 24523 Joined: Apr 15 2015 AT THE BEACH Moderator Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #15 As GRob get's minutes his play declines. I wonder if he's injured. GO RAMS !!! GO DODGERS !!! GO LAKERS !!!THE GREATEST SHOW ON TURF,, WAS by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #16 Thank you for Cookie info! TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 16 posts Jul 07 2025
by TSFH Fan 9 years 7 months ago Total posts: 699 Joined: Jun 24 2015 The OC Veteran Re: PFF Rams vs Vikings Matchup(updated) POST #16 Thank you for Cookie info! TSFH -- Two Steps From Hell -- Thomas Bergersen, Nick Phoenix -- Music Makes You Braverhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TwoStepsFromTheMusichttp://www.twostepsfromhell.com/ Reply 2 / 2 1 2 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business