[dieterbrock]

Cant read these twitter updates, anyone care to translate?

[Elvis]

Cant read these twitter updates, anyone care to translate?

Downtown Rams
@DowntownRams
Source: #Rams and DE Aaron Donald are expected to come to an agreement on a massive deal that would pay Donald $24M per year with gurantees in the $65M - $70M range later this week.

[dieterbrock]

Total value can't start this year. It didn't with Cooks or Gurley either. Cooks got a 16 M a year deal, but that starts next year. Add this year to it and it's less than 16 M. Same kind of math with Gurley.

Let's say AD signs a 4 year, 96 M deal, at 24 M a year. That starts next year. If you include this year, to get to 24 M a year, the extension would have to be for 113 M at 28+ M a year. Which was never going to happen.

Not going to argue about it though. You can think what you want. But from my perspective, there's a reason Cooks's deal is universally described as 16 M, when it wouldn't be that much if they included this year in doing the math. It's 16 M...starting next year. Otherwise it's not a 5 year 81 M dollar deal, it's a 6 year 87 M dollar deal coming in at 14.5 M a year.

Not true.
Cook signed an extension, Donald could sign a new contract which supersedes the 5th year. Extension works better for cap numbers but they can tear up a current year if the new AAV is higher

[dieterbrock]

Downtown Rams
@DowntownRams
Source: #Rams and DE Aaron Donald are expected to come to an agreement on a massive deal that would pay Donald $24M per year with gurantees in the $65M - $70M range later this week.

Got to love these "sources"

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Got to love these "sources"

Jake said his source is the same one that gave him the uniform news. And that was spot on.

He also told me he didn't get the number of years. That is important.

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Not true.
Cook signed an extension, Donald could sign a new contract which supersedes the 5th year. Extension works better for cap numbers but they can tear up a current year if the new AAV is higher

Yes what I say is true.

The extension means Cooks starts over with a 2nd contract in 2019. 2018 is considered the final year of his rookie contract. It's considered 2 contracts, and calling it an "extension" doesn't exclude that. All of the 81 M comes in the next 5 year contract and so it is spoken of as being (around) 16 M a year.

And that's how it's reported. Just a few examples:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bran ... with-rams/

Cooks' deal will keep his approximate salary of $8.46 million this year in place before it spikes when the extension kicks in next season. The average worth of his extension is $16 million, and it keeps him in Los Angeles until the 2023 season.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... ive-years/

The first report about the compensation came a short time later. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the five-year extension has a total value of $80 million. Cooks is set to make $8 million this season in the fifth and final year of his rookie deal....The new money averages $16 million a year, which ties former Ram and current Chief Sammy Watkins for the fourth-biggest per-year average among wideouts

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/17/r ... extension/

As part of the extension, Cooks received $20.5 million in guaranteed money and his average salary will be approximately $16 million per season.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2412 ... -extension

A fifth-year pro, Cooks is entering the final season of his rookie contract, which is scheduled to pay him $8.4 million. His extension will keep him with the Rams through the 2023 season.

It will be the same with Donald. If he gets 24 M a year that starts in 2019. 2018 will be considered the final year of his rookie contract.

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Yes what I say is true.

The extension means Cooks starts over with a 2nd contract in 2019. 2018 is considered the final year of his rookie contract. It's considered 2 contracts, and calling it an "extension" doesn't exclude that. All of the 81 M comes in the next 5 year contract and so it is spoken of as being (around) 16 M a year.

And that's how it's reported. Just a few examples:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bran ... with-rams/



https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... ive-years/



https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/17/r ... extension/



http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2412 ... -extension



It will be the same with Donald. If he gets 24 M a year that starts in 2019. 2018 will be considered the final year of his rookie contract.

That's all correct. But the question I have is how much guaranteed money Donald will get and when does he get it. That's a very big deal.

[dieterbrock]

Yes what I say is true.

The extension means Cooks starts over with a 2nd contract in 2019. 2018 is considered the final year of his rookie contract. It's considered 2 contracts, and calling it an "extension" doesn't exclude that. All of the 81 M comes in the next 5 year contract and so it is spoken of as being (around) 16 M a year.

And that's how it's reported. Just a few examples:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bran ... with-rams/



https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... ive-years/



https://www.ocregister.com/2018/07/17/r ... extension/



http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2412 ... -extension



It will be the same with Donald. If he gets 24 M a year that starts in 2019. 2018 will be considered the final year of his rookie contract.

You’re still wrong.
And as usual didn’t read what I wrote. Cooks signed an extension. Not a new contract.
Donald may sign an extension or he may sign a new contract. You are wrong in assuming it can only be an extension

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That's all correct. But the question I have is how much guaranteed money Donald will get and when does he get it. That's a very big deal.

The speculation right now is that they may be trading years for guaranteed money. That is he may get less guaranteed money than most people were thinking, but it may also be a shorter deal (4 years).

But we're still in rumor territory so who knows.

I think the current rumors indicate this. That the initial rumors (and they were just rumors) about what the 2 sides wanted was not a case of 2 entrenched positions. (That was first framed as being 20 M v. 25 M or more.) 20 M was definitely too low, considering all the criteria needed to assess that; 25 M was too high. But it wasn't 2 entrenched positions. They were apparently working toward the middle ground.

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[aeneas1]

That's all correct. But the question I have is how much guaranteed money Donald will get and when does he get it. That's a very big deal.

gurley got 78% of his contract guaranteed, second only to cousins' 100% as far as i can tell... a few others: cooks 61%, ryan, 67%, garoppolo 54%, v.miller 61%...