by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #31 Gareth wrote:I voted for the current mismatch. The white horns are far and away my favorite. I would love them to keep the white horns going forward but I’m pretty sure they are going to go with yellow.Then why would they switch to white on the helmet? White and blue will be the color scheme going forward. Yellow getting worked in is the challenge. Perhaps they petition the league to use blue and yellow 4x a season????? by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #32 I have a blue, white, black/yellow concept that I only hope I find a way to present; futuristic and classic, concurrently. If any graphic artist on this board wants to help me bring this concept to light, PM me. Seriously. No really. I am not kidding. The concept is off the rails cool. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #33 ramsman34 wrote:I have a blue, white, black/yellow concept that I only hope I find a way to present; futuristic and classic, concurrently. If any graphic artist on this board wants to help me bring this concept to light, PM me. Seriously. No really. I am not kidding. The concept is off the rails cool.i'm intrigued... by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #34 aeneas1 wrote:i'm intrigued...PM me bro by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #35 moklerman liked this post I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #36 max wrote:I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design. by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #37 ramsman34 wrote:Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design.I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Re: Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #32 I have a blue, white, black/yellow concept that I only hope I find a way to present; futuristic and classic, concurrently. If any graphic artist on this board wants to help me bring this concept to light, PM me. Seriously. No really. I am not kidding. The concept is off the rails cool. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #33 ramsman34 wrote:I have a blue, white, black/yellow concept that I only hope I find a way to present; futuristic and classic, concurrently. If any graphic artist on this board wants to help me bring this concept to light, PM me. Seriously. No really. I am not kidding. The concept is off the rails cool.i'm intrigued... by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #34 aeneas1 wrote:i'm intrigued...PM me bro by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #35 moklerman liked this post I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #36 max wrote:I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design. by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #37 ramsman34 wrote:Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design.I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #33 ramsman34 wrote:I have a blue, white, black/yellow concept that I only hope I find a way to present; futuristic and classic, concurrently. If any graphic artist on this board wants to help me bring this concept to light, PM me. Seriously. No really. I am not kidding. The concept is off the rails cool.i'm intrigued... by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #34 aeneas1 wrote:i'm intrigued...PM me bro by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #35 moklerman liked this post I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #36 max wrote:I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design. by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #37 ramsman34 wrote:Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design.I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #34 aeneas1 wrote:i'm intrigued...PM me bro by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #35 moklerman liked this post I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #36 max wrote:I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design. by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #37 ramsman34 wrote:Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design.I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024 FOLLOW US @RAMSFANSUNITED Who liked this post
by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #35 moklerman liked this post I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers 1 by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #36 max wrote:I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design. by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #37 ramsman34 wrote:Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design.I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024
by ramsman34 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 8462 Joined: Apr 16 2015 Back in LA baby! Moderator Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #36 max wrote:I feel fairly confident that Demoff won’t change to the throwbacks for the next 2 years, regardless of the current wave in the media and fandom. There will be a rebrand, either next year or more likely in 2020 to coincide with the new stadium. Maybe they’ll tweak the current mismatch, but that’s about it until the rebrand. My biggest fear is that the rebrand will be ugly. I don’t trust Demoff to get it right. Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design. by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #37 ramsman34 wrote:Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design.I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024
by max 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 5579 Joined: Jun 01 2015 Sarasota, FL Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #37 ramsman34 wrote:Demoff isnt a graphic designer. He just has to sign off on the design.I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones. ~ max ~“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024
by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #38 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 1 time in total. max wrote:I never lived in LA or STL and I reject your claim about how “nomads” feel Don't worry. I deliberately avoided speaking for all "nomads" (though I know from experience a lot of them do feel the way I do). Here's what I actually said: A large percentage of online Rams fans on Rams message boards are "nomads" who are not from either LA or St.L. We are no more homogeneous than either LA or St.L fans are, but you can make some rough generalizations about us. So for example the fact that some associate the blue/gold helmets with St.Louis doesn't mean anything to me at all.I say we're not homogenous. When I get to the uniform I say "to me" making that comment specific to me. So I took all the right precautions on an issue that is volatile and controversial and did not say the thing you;'re arguing with. (Though you would have to do a LOT of work to convince me that a large percentage of nomads feel the way you do. Still I did quite deliberately allow for heterogeneity. So there's nothing to "reject.")Oh, and, Max, here's the vote as it stands right now: 2016 ST. LOUIS UNIFORM: 44%2017 MIS-MATCHED ATTEMPT AT BLUE AND WHITE: 56%Slight majority prefer the mismatch so far. But it's hardly overwhelming and my bet is, if you personally guessed the numbers before looking, you wouldn't get it right. by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024
by /zn/ 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 6758 Joined: Jun 28 2015 Maine Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #39 Last edited by /zn/ on May 21 2018, edited 2 times in total. R4L wrote:please accept my apologies Okay. by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business 61 posts Mar 28 2024
by aeneas1 5 years 10 months ago Total posts: 16894 Joined: Sep 13 2015 Norcal Hall of Fame Uniforms: If You Had to Choose POST #40 Hacksaw liked this post max wrote:I understand that. But if there's a way for anyone to screw up uniforms, I think Demoff would be the guy who can pull that off. He meddles way too much in this area where he has no business being.My daughter is in the graphic design business in NYC. She said Nike is a major player in this and will do fine if the client doesn't meddle. I asked her if clients ever meddle, and she said yes, the bad ones.i think nike, left to their own devices, is a nightmare that's sure to happen, i hope to god that the rams have folks in house that won't only meddle, but will have a clear vision of what they want and make nike toe the line.at least the league finally bailed on nike's ugly "web" collar last season (pictured below), nike finally came out with an alternative to the eyesore in 2017, which just about every team opted for: 1 Reply 4 / 7 1 4 7 Display: All posts1 day7 days2 weeks1 month3 months6 months1 year Sort by: AuthorPost timeSubject Sort by: AscendingDescending Jump to: Forum Rams/NFL Other Sports Rams Fans United Q&A's Board Business