[BuiltRamTough]

I feel bad for the real hardcore Raider fans in Oakland right now.

[Elvis]

This story is nuts. When Adelson and Goldman Sach pulled out i heard Fred and Vinny on the radio saying the Raiders to Vegas was all but dead and it was reasonable to think the NFL was behind it.

That was 3 months ago. Now look where we are...

[RamsFanSince82]

[Claremontram]

Good. Hasta la vista.

[Elvis]

http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2017/03/ ... al-to-nfl/

Explaining the unresolved foundational issues of Oakland’s stadium proposal to NFL

Posted on March 25, 2017 by Vincent Bonsignore

I’ve been getting a lot of questions asking to explain the what the key issues the NFL has with the Raiders stadium plan Oakland mayor Libby Schaaf presented to the NFL.

In lay men’s terms, this explains the unresolved issues the league is continues to cite.

1. With no guarantees Oakland would exercise the termination clause with A’s it could take years before construction could actually begin. The NFL needs assurance the A’s long-term lease won’t impede any project moving forward.

2. None of what Oakland proposed is guaranteed to be acceptable to the County Alameda, which is another unresolved contingency issue
that could delay the project moving forward. In addition, there is no blanket approval by the Oakland City Council. The proposal, therefore, is an ENA, not a binding agreement.

3. The partial land being proposed doesn’t work for Raiders as, with the Raiders paying the entire bill for the stadium, it’s not
sufficient enough for development around stadium to create revenue streams to help offset construction cost.

4. None of which even gets into the third party presence of Fortress, and the terms that would be required to pay back the $600m loan being proposed to the Raiders.

[Neil039]

The blame game will ramp up soon. Any city(or area) and an NFL team have to have a symbiotic relationship. When one doesn't feel they need the other it's time to move on. A mutualist relationship is needed, sometimes it feels lop sided. Reality is some times the NFL is the shark and other time it's the location. The Raiders had a decade old debacle, the A's played money ball and were successful. Now the team(team is the shark) has plenty to offer a town who will financially help them. Doesn't mean the Oakland fans gave up, just wasn't meant to be.

[PARAM]

It just slays me the way these places wait until the last minute....or until the team announces it's intention to move......to submit a stadium plan. Ridiculous.

NFL teams wanting more and moving if they don't get it crosses the country and decades of NFL football. What's the problem? If you want an NFL team or want to keep an NFL team, put up or shut up. And here's the kicker, if the team is a loser and you don't want to see them play, then why all the angst when they move or want to move? "We want an NFL team but we want a perennial winner. Nothing less." People in hell want ice water too.

[BuiltRamTough]

If it wasn't for the A's, the Raiders and Oakland would figure it out.

The A's celebrated when SanFran broke ground on a new arena for the Warriors and they'll do the same next week.

[BuiltRamTough]

The commish sends a death letter to the mayor of Oakland..

[BobCarl]

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