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by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

Neither you, the police, Jonathan, nor I ... have employed a copy editor to choose the correct "grammar, syntax", etc to illustrate our logic. Not talking about "our" logic. Talking about the quotations from the police. They cannot be read the way you read them---it's that simpl...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

they didn't say that before they detained him .... he was "not a threat" after law enforcement intervened. He is in treatment now. This is called "crisis intervention". The crisis was avoided.... and he figuratively (or literally) "put the gun down". If the professiona...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

I would say more than likely the law showed up because they erred on the side it was a threat. You can say that all you want. The law openly and directly said, though, that his comment was not a threat. Our own imaginings and speculations aside, they directly and straightforwardly said he did not t...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

Yet they took him to be evaluated. It's like I said they need to find out what is going on inside his head and they made the right call to do so. Do you deny this is the right call for them to do? Yet that does not change either the sentence he wrote or the fact that the police openly came right ou...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

Could be as you say. However those remarks are and would be stand alone remarks. When he injected the mental scenery of a shotgun with 18 shells. When he did that he did not change English grammar or syntax, or simple logic. According to the grammar of that sentence, only cowards react to bullying ...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

Here's the problem, and why you are terribly off base here. Martin is the one doing "the bullying" here by including Pouncey and Incognito- He is the one bringing them in to it. The allegation he made was considered with foundation and they were "punished" for their actions, yea...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

PhxRam wrote:I think all that really matters is how Incognito and Pouncey interpreted the message.


If left to just that, then, the police should have nothing to do with it either way.

And if RI and Pouncey didn't just agree with what Martin ACTUALLY said, then...fuck em. 8-)

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

Read his comment as written and it's just simply not a threat. To follow up on that. The police themselves said the comment is not a threat: . https://www.dailynews.com/2018/02/23/harvard-westlake-closes-studio-city-campus-after-instagram-post-that-showed-gun-referenced-bullying/ Sgt. Frank Albarra...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater could be a misunderstanding too ... and so could telling a joke about bombs in front of airport security. Neither of which he did. In fact, Martin posting the idea that bullies are bad and it;s the COWARDS who have been bullied that are the ones who res...

by  /zn/   Feb 24 2018   Forum: Rams/NFL   Topic: JONATHAN MARTIN DETAINED BY POLICE OVER GUN PIC   Replies: 42   Views: 297

We already do. But there is a thing called "Habeas Corpus" which protects us citizens from Government in abusing this. Most states allow authorities to detain a person that "could be a danger to himself or others" and put him in a mental holding facility. This does not fit the l...

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